Can it not simply be defined as making them unwilling to commit further crimes? As for torture, in my view, they're simply saying that our goal is not really p

Can it not simply be defined as making them unwilling to commit further crimes? As for torture, in my view, they're simply saying that our goal is not really punitive because we're not actively trying to make prisoners miserable. Our incompetence, uncaringness and willingness to allow prisoners to be taken advantage passively creates misery, though. No one is suggesting that we should torture anyone, only using it to point out that the prison misery comes more from apathy about prison conditions rather than some active attempt to create misery.