4 ms·

I don't get this sentiment at all. China is notorious for stealing IP, they're a major military player (threat), and this professor lied about his ties to China

I don't get this sentiment at all. China is notorious for stealing IP, they're a major military player (threat), and this professor lied about his ties to China and still worked on DoD funded projects. The government reaction seems pretty reasonable.

tehjoker 7y ago
Many many projects are DoD funded and have little to nothing to do with immediate military applications. China is a threat to US hegemony in its own backyard, but to state that China is a threat to actual US citizens is kind of absurd. We're over there, they're not over here!
- arcticfox 7y ago
  They're not over here - yet. Never in the history of the world has there been a surveillance state like they're building, there's no telling how effective it might end up being.
blackrock 7y ago
What exactly is the Chinese “threat” here? Are they going to send a nuclear-powered aircraft carrier loaded with soldiers to invade the shores of Seattle and Los Angeles? And then claim the mainland United States as their own property?
- deleted 7y ago
  [deleted]
- therealdrag0 7y ago
  Countries are continually jockeying for power. There's cyber wars, trade wars, cultural wars.
  - gdy 7y ago
    Not the countries. The "elites".
- baseballdork 7y ago
  That's a straw man, I never said they're an invasion threat. They're a threat to US military superiority.
  - FpUser 7y ago
    Well power has to be balanced. Otherwise one with the biggest club might get wrong ideas.
    - sdinsn 7y ago
      Currently, China is the one with the wrong ideas. That's why we need to oppose them every step of the way.
- unishark 7y ago
  It isn't like he's arguing for a preemptive strike against China. Just a rule about giving taxpayer funding to their agents (which is what one becomes when agreeing to work on their behalf)
- qtplatypus 7y ago
  Seattle and LA no. But are they going to make territorial claims over islands in the South China Sea, islands that are also claimed by US allies such as the Philippines, South Korea and Japan? Will they use the threat of military force in an attempt to support those claims? Well yes they have already done so.
HarryHirsch 7y ago
Do you really think any student gets near anything that could remotely impact national security without a background check? This is Charles Lieber's latest paper: http://cml.harvard.edu/assets/Nanowire-probes-could-drive-high-resolution-brain-machine-interfaces.pdf http://cml.harvard.edu/assets/Nanowire-probes-could-drive-hi... It's a review article on nanowires, and in the acknowledgements an Air Force is listed, obviously because a student's salary is funded by the Air Force. The guy is stupider than the FBI permits but there is no reason to drift into xenophobia.
- monoideism 7y ago
  >> China is notorious for stealing IP, > xenophobia Really? So stating that China steals IP is now "xenophobia"?
- deleted 7y ago
  [deleted]
johnhughesco 7y ago
US is notorious for stealing IP too. Cough M&A cough

tehjoker 7y ago

Many many projects are DoD funded and have little to nothing to do with immediate military applications. China is a threat to US hegemony in its own backyard, but to state that China is a threat to actual US citizens is kind of absurd. We're over there, they're not over here!

arcticfox 7y ago
They're not over here - yet. Never in the history of the world has there been a surveillance state like they're building, there's no telling how effective it might end up being.

blackrock 7y ago

What exactly is the Chinese “threat” here? Are they going to send a nuclear-powered aircraft carrier loaded with soldiers to invade the shores of Seattle and Los Angeles? And then claim the mainland United States as their own property?

deleted 7y ago
[deleted]
therealdrag0 7y ago
Countries are continually jockeying for power. There's cyber wars, trade wars, cultural wars.
- gdy 7y ago
  Not the countries. The "elites".
baseballdork 7y ago
That's a straw man, I never said they're an invasion threat. They're a threat to US military superiority.
- FpUser 7y ago
  Well power has to be balanced. Otherwise one with the biggest club might get wrong ideas.
  - sdinsn 7y ago
    Currently, China is the one with the wrong ideas. That's why we need to oppose them every step of the way.
unishark 7y ago
It isn't like he's arguing for a preemptive strike against China. Just a rule about giving taxpayer funding to their agents (which is what one becomes when agreeing to work on their behalf)
qtplatypus 7y ago
Seattle and LA no. But are they going to make territorial claims over islands in the South China Sea, islands that are also claimed by US allies such as the Philippines, South Korea and Japan? Will they use the threat of military force in an attempt to support those claims? Well yes they have already done so.

HarryHirsch 7y ago

Do you really think any student gets near anything that could remotely impact national security without a background check? This is Charles Lieber's latest paper: http://cml.harvard.edu/assets/Nanowire-probes-could-drive-high-resolution-brain-machine-interfaces.pdf http://cml.harvard.edu/assets/Nanowire-probes-could-drive-hi... It's a review article on nanowires, and in the acknowledgements an Air Force is listed, obviously because a student's salary is funded by the Air Force. The guy is stupider than the FBI permits but there is no reason to drift into xenophobia.

monoideism 7y ago
>> China is notorious for stealing IP, > xenophobia Really? So stating that China steals IP is now "xenophobia"?
deleted 7y ago
[deleted]

johnhughesco 7y ago

US is notorious for stealing IP too. Cough M&A cough