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> I'm confused what the use case for this is? I want to buy an album by an obscure artist that decided to only put their songs on iTunes. There is literally no

> I'm confused what the use case for this is? I want to buy an album by an obscure artist that decided to only put their songs on iTunes. There is literally no way for me to by said album without downloading and installing a giant program. They've seen fixed their web store and also split iTunes into pieces, but that was an issue for many years. > Keynote streaming has had a long, weird history over the past decades Sure but I'm not talking about decades ago, but even 2 years ago. In 2017. > I just don't think they cared that much about getting it to any home users live. Right, that's my point, they don't care about anyone outside their ecosystem.

oneplane 7y ago
Why would they care? What do they have to gain? While they are not the typical shareholder-directed company you'd normally see they are definitely still in it for the money. And since the market has shifted to services, ecosystem and larger user bases, there is no money or benefit to be gained from an investment to include people that are not your target audience. That has shifted slightly since as a services company you can now make money without selling devices, and as other standards have become available (HLS was an Apple-only thing in the past, the rest had to use either Adobe or MS streaming stuff, unless you were into QTSS from 1995). While there are plenty of things to like and dislike about Apple and what it produces, in the end, they are not going to care about people that will neither deliver money nor increased brand status.
- ehsankia 7y ago
  Why does Google make Duo and Hangouts work on iOS and Android? I'm sorry but outright making it hard for a non-significant subsection of people to buy music on your music store is just plain stupid. The only way to justify it is that losing such customers is worth it if it helps them keep their walled garden tight.
  - oneplane 7y ago
    Because Google makes money by harvesting data and providing paid services to as many users as possible, while Apple makes money by selling a UX. It's much harder to sell UX to every possible market segment than to have varying degrees of UX and still make money off of just that. That's why the business models between them differ (just like Microsoft differs from both of them yet again - even if there are a lot of comparable practises).

oneplane 7y ago

Why would they care? What do they have to gain? While they are not the typical shareholder-directed company you'd normally see they are definitely still in it for the money. And since the market has shifted to services, ecosystem and larger user bases, there is no money or benefit to be gained from an investment to include people that are not your target audience. That has shifted slightly since as a services company you can now make money without selling devices, and as other standards have become available (HLS was an Apple-only thing in the past, the rest had to use either Adobe or MS streaming stuff, unless you were into QTSS from 1995). While there are plenty of things to like and dislike about Apple and what it produces, in the end, they are not going to care about people that will neither deliver money nor increased brand status.

ehsankia 7y ago
Why does Google make Duo and Hangouts work on iOS and Android? I'm sorry but outright making it hard for a non-significant subsection of people to buy music on your music store is just plain stupid. The only way to justify it is that losing such customers is worth it if it helps them keep their walled garden tight.
- oneplane 7y ago
  Because Google makes money by harvesting data and providing paid services to as many users as possible, while Apple makes money by selling a UX. It's much harder to sell UX to every possible market segment than to have varying degrees of UX and still make money off of just that. That's why the business models between them differ (just like Microsoft differs from both of them yet again - even if there are a lot of comparable practises).