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On the other hand, if you're young, one route is to join the military for a lot of those same benefits. That's what I should do honestly, but I value my free ti

On the other hand, if you're young, one route is to join the military for a lot of those same benefits. That's what I should do honestly, but I value my free time and peace of mind as a civilian too much. You should look at it this way. You either pay in money through debt, or you pay with your mind and body as a military personnel or a prisoner. Both sucks ass and none of us are any better under this rotten system.

tempsy 7y ago
If you’re not killed or injured the cost is high probability of lifelong PTSD
- hilbertseries 7y ago
  There are many non combat roles in the military.
robert_foss 7y ago
Move to another country. Seriously. Not all places are this bad. Some have free healthcare and education.
- Ghjklov 7y ago
  Thank you for the encouragement. That is actually one of my wishes I'd like to fulfill myself some day. I need to do my best for now with what I have until I can make it happen.
  - robert_foss 7y ago
    Moving is hard. Especially the first time. If you're young, many countries have young peoples visas that are valid for 1-2 years. Which would allow you to work & some time to get set up and figure out your next steps. All you really need to get started is a non-tourist visa, somewhere to stay, and a plane ticket. As for actually making the above happen, no one is going to hold your hand, you have to want it bad enough to make it happen.
throwaway17_17 7y ago
Your assertion that military service in the US “sucks ass” is rather inflammatory. The United States Military has provided a life changing means and opportunity for many. I’m not denying that the risks and imposition is not substantial. Speaking for myself, I am permanently disabled as a direct result of my period of service in the Army. But, I would not change that decision for anything. I know people will make a judgement about the sacrifices entailed in service, but “sucks ass” is too broad and too far a generalization.
- Ghjklov 7y ago
  Context here matters a bit. Having to choose between going to prison or joining the military just to get education, shelter, and food is a very "sucks ass" situation.
  - throwaway17_17 7y ago
    Very true. I would whole heartedly agree that joining for those purposes is a sucks ass situation.
  - beerandt 7y ago
    I don't think your context is as vindicating as you might think. That's not a decision, let alone a difficult one.

tempsy 7y ago

If you’re not killed or injured the cost is high probability of lifelong PTSD

hilbertseries 7y ago
There are many non combat roles in the military.

robert_foss 7y ago

Move to another country. Seriously. Not all places are this bad. Some have free healthcare and education.

Ghjklov 7y ago
Thank you for the encouragement. That is actually one of my wishes I'd like to fulfill myself some day. I need to do my best for now with what I have until I can make it happen.
- robert_foss 7y ago
  Moving is hard. Especially the first time. If you're young, many countries have young peoples visas that are valid for 1-2 years. Which would allow you to work & some time to get set up and figure out your next steps. All you really need to get started is a non-tourist visa, somewhere to stay, and a plane ticket. As for actually making the above happen, no one is going to hold your hand, you have to want it bad enough to make it happen.

throwaway17_17 7y ago

Your assertion that military service in the US “sucks ass” is rather inflammatory. The United States Military has provided a life changing means and opportunity for many. I’m not denying that the risks and imposition is not substantial. Speaking for myself, I am permanently disabled as a direct result of my period of service in the Army. But, I would not change that decision for anything. I know people will make a judgement about the sacrifices entailed in service, but “sucks ass” is too broad and too far a generalization.

Ghjklov 7y ago
Context here matters a bit. Having to choose between going to prison or joining the military just to get education, shelter, and food is a very "sucks ass" situation.
- throwaway17_17 7y ago
  Very true. I would whole heartedly agree that joining for those purposes is a sucks ass situation.
- beerandt 7y ago
  I don't think your context is as vindicating as you might think. That's not a decision, let alone a difficult one.