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AppleTV+ is also available on the web and on Roku and Samsung TVs. So again, not a walled garden even when using their products.

StavrosK 7y ago
Oh okay, if it's on Samsung TVs that's pretty much FOSS levels of openness, I agree.
- oneplane 7y ago
  Your reply here seems to try to twist the thread to a point where all uses of 'open' or 'non-walled' has to equate FOSS or EFF ideals, while you probably know that is neither feasible nor what is being discussed. It feels like you're intentionally acting obtuse at this point.
  - StavrosK 7y ago
    No, it was sarcastically reducing the argument to an absurdity. I'm not going to reply to you any more because it looks like you're just trying to troll.
    - tekknik 7y ago
      actually it looks like you’re the troll, and copping out to the “not gonna reply cause i’m obviously wrong and lack further supporting arguments” statement. apple is opening their walled garden up, both music and apple tv plus are available on other platforms now. for the majority this gives us confidence in buying into their platform, knowing we can take our content with us should we decide we no longer want their devices.
    - coldtea 7y ago
      >No, it was sarcastically reducing the argument to an absurdity. No, it was just a snark with no point. Reductio ad absurdum is a totally different mechanism. Besically you just shifted the goalposts from the original claim that you're locked to Apple's platforms if you use Apple TV music. to, [it might be available on other platforms] but it's not FOSS, haha when it was pointed to you that your original claim is false and Apple TV is available for platforms like Roku and Samsung. The rest, accusing the parent of trolling, is just rude. He provided a counter-argument with actual information (that Apple TV is also available in Samsung and Roku).

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AppleTV+ is also available on the web and on Roku and Samsung TVs. So again, not a walled garden even when using their products.

by thewebcount 7y ago

StavrosK 7y ago
Oh okay, if it's on Samsung TVs that's pretty much FOSS levels of openness, I agree.
- oneplane 7y ago
  Your reply here seems to try to twist the thread to a point where all uses of 'open' or 'non-walled' has to equate FOSS or EFF ideals, while you probably know that is neither feasible nor what is being discussed. It feels like you're intentionally acting obtuse at this point.
  - StavrosK 7y ago
    No, it was sarcastically reducing the argument to an absurdity. I'm not going to reply to you any more because it looks like you're just trying to troll.
    - tekknik 7y ago
      actually it looks like you’re the troll, and copping out to the “not gonna reply cause i’m obviously wrong and lack further supporting arguments” statement. apple is opening their walled garden up, both music and apple tv plus are available on other platforms now. for the majority this gives us confidence in buying into their platform, knowing we can take our content with us should we decide we no longer want their devices.
    - coldtea 7y ago
      >No, it was sarcastically reducing the argument to an absurdity. No, it was just a snark with no point. Reductio ad absurdum is a totally different mechanism. Besically you just shifted the goalposts from the original claim that you're locked to Apple's platforms if you use Apple TV music. to, [it might be available on other platforms] but it's not FOSS, haha when it was pointed to you that your original claim is false and Apple TV is available for platforms like Roku and Samsung. The rest, accusing the parent of trolling, is just rude. He provided a counter-argument with actual information (that Apple TV is also available in Samsung and Roku).