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Yes, they do, in part because they opened up previously in the heyday of people building their own systems, and continue to engage deeply on the enthusiast asks

Yes, they do, in part because they opened up previously in the heyday of people building their own systems, and continue to engage deeply on the enthusiast asks right now contra-posed against their broader market understanding. Roughly, they figure out which enthusiast things will appeal to the larger market, and make it all work, fully integrated. Per the curve shown in Geoffrey Moore’s “Crossing the Chasm”, HN exists largely on the left of the chasm, Apple is a trillion dollar company because it understood how to shift to the right of the chasm. Visual explanation (.png): https://smithhousedesign.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/smithHOUSE-design-digital-marketing-consulting-phoenix-crossing-the-chasm.png https://smithhousedesign.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/smit...

pier25 7y ago
> in part because they opened up previously in the heyday of people building their own systems 20+ years ago? > continue to engage deeply on the enthusiast asks right now contra-posed against their broader market understanding Is this speculation or you have concrete evidence of this claim? > HN exists largely on the left of the chasm, Apple is a trillion dollar company because it understood how to shift to the right of the chasm. It think it would be the opposite. Having a tower with macOS and consumer specs (no Xeon or ECC) would be pretty boring and conservative. I think that is one of the reasons Apple won't do it.
- Terretta 7y ago
  > 20+ years ago? Yeah. Back then lots of folks moonlit or ran local PC builder companies as small business PC builders and gaming PC builders. Before gateway and e-machines, and the like. > speculation or evidence? first hand knowledge > think it would be the opposite The curve is within a market. There are boring computers and exciting computers, workaday computers and toy computers, etc. Each has its curve. Compare to automobiles, what gets shown at shows or on the track, what is limited edition, and finally what is high end then mainstream then outdated. The high end buyers want them some of that enthusiast kit — without the high maintenance and visits to the mechanic. That’s even true within a brand line, buyers want stuff they see getting played with over on the left of the chasm by competing enthusiasts, and they want their brand to adopt it too.
  - pier25 7y ago
    > first hand knowledge Please do go on :)

pier25 7y ago

> in part because they opened up previously in the heyday of people building their own systems 20+ years ago? > continue to engage deeply on the enthusiast asks right now contra-posed against their broader market understanding Is this speculation or you have concrete evidence of this claim? > HN exists largely on the left of the chasm, Apple is a trillion dollar company because it understood how to shift to the right of the chasm. It think it would be the opposite. Having a tower with macOS and consumer specs (no Xeon or ECC) would be pretty boring and conservative. I think that is one of the reasons Apple won't do it.

Terretta 7y ago
> 20+ years ago? Yeah. Back then lots of folks moonlit or ran local PC builder companies as small business PC builders and gaming PC builders. Before gateway and e-machines, and the like. > speculation or evidence? first hand knowledge > think it would be the opposite The curve is within a market. There are boring computers and exciting computers, workaday computers and toy computers, etc. Each has its curve. Compare to automobiles, what gets shown at shows or on the track, what is limited edition, and finally what is high end then mainstream then outdated. The high end buyers want them some of that enthusiast kit — without the high maintenance and visits to the mechanic. That’s even true within a brand line, buyers want stuff they see getting played with over on the left of the chasm by competing enthusiasts, and they want their brand to adopt it too.
- pier25 7y ago
  > first hand knowledge Please do go on :)