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Wish they'd do something about internet scammers. One of them got my mom to pay $150 and she lives off disability. She asks me all the time about these messag

Wish they'd do something about internet scammers. One of them got my mom to pay $150 and she lives off disability. She asks me all the time about these messages she gets about how her computer is damaged and to call a number. I tell her not to, but she has dementia and forgets. These assholes are preying specifically on our old population.

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smn1234 7y ago
sticky on her monitor / laptop screen to call you when some internet stranger asks her to dial some random number?
lotsofpulp 7y ago
That’s why I gave all my elders iPads.
- RyJones 7y ago
  I don't get why this is downvoted. This is exactly what I did. Reduce the attack surface as much as possible
  - tyingq 7y ago
    I didn't downvote it, but remote control of your PC is only a subset of the scams. So, helpful to have them use an iPad or Chromebook, but not a panacea.
    - toomuchtodo 7y ago
      Defense in depth of the vulnerable. Being a trusted contact at financial institutions and having access and authority to screen and monitor calls are also components. People can be monsters (as the story mentions). Prepare accordingly.
  - kube-system 7y ago
    Websites telling you that your computer is broken will load just as well on mobile Safari as they do on desktop Safari. I've clicked a search result link that has redirected to them before on iOS myself. Maybe if the scammer's script absolutely insists you use remote-desktop you might get lucky, but scammers can still scam without remoting in to your computer.
- diebeforei485 7y ago
  Not sure why you're being downvoted. This is a legitimate solution for the vast majority of use cases.
- deleted 7y ago
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- mancerayder 7y ago
  I hope this happens while I'm in the presence of an elderly relative. I will pick up the phone, naively try to get them to give me any personal info, and record the receiver with my phone. Then I'll inform them I've just done that. I'm not sure if that's the point of an iPod, though - those scams go a lot further than remote computer access.
- pitay 7y ago
  Simply making my elders accounts non-administrator worked really well for me.
donmcronald 7y ago
My parents aren't equipped to deal with the amount of deceit online. They grew up in a different time. For example, my mom went online to buy flowers and didn't realize the top ads on Google are all scams where they overcharge you and forward your order to a real local shop. Or how about the Marketplace investigation into fake locksmiths in the GTA? https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/locksmith-google-maps-reviews-fake-marketplace-1.5417931 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/locksmith-google-maps-reviews... Fake ads for fake businesses with fake products and fake reviews. Go internet!
stronglikedan 7y ago
Serious question, from an anxious person whose parents are nearing "that age": Is it normal for a person with dementia to have control of their finances, to the point where they can give large amounts of money away?

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smn1234 7y ago

sticky on her monitor / laptop screen to call you when some internet stranger asks her to dial some random number?

lotsofpulp 7y ago

That’s why I gave all my elders iPads.

RyJones 7y ago
I don't get why this is downvoted. This is exactly what I did. Reduce the attack surface as much as possible
- tyingq 7y ago
  I didn't downvote it, but remote control of your PC is only a subset of the scams. So, helpful to have them use an iPad or Chromebook, but not a panacea.
  - toomuchtodo 7y ago
    Defense in depth of the vulnerable. Being a trusted contact at financial institutions and having access and authority to screen and monitor calls are also components. People can be monsters (as the story mentions). Prepare accordingly.
- kube-system 7y ago
  Websites telling you that your computer is broken will load just as well on mobile Safari as they do on desktop Safari. I've clicked a search result link that has redirected to them before on iOS myself. Maybe if the scammer's script absolutely insists you use remote-desktop you might get lucky, but scammers can still scam without remoting in to your computer.
diebeforei485 7y ago
Not sure why you're being downvoted. This is a legitimate solution for the vast majority of use cases.
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mancerayder 7y ago
I hope this happens while I'm in the presence of an elderly relative. I will pick up the phone, naively try to get them to give me any personal info, and record the receiver with my phone. Then I'll inform them I've just done that. I'm not sure if that's the point of an iPod, though - those scams go a lot further than remote computer access.
pitay 7y ago
Simply making my elders accounts non-administrator worked really well for me.

donmcronald 7y ago

My parents aren't equipped to deal with the amount of deceit online. They grew up in a different time. For example, my mom went online to buy flowers and didn't realize the top ads on Google are all scams where they overcharge you and forward your order to a real local shop. Or how about the Marketplace investigation into fake locksmiths in the GTA? https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/locksmith-google-maps-reviews-fake-marketplace-1.5417931 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/locksmith-google-maps-reviews... Fake ads for fake businesses with fake products and fake reviews. Go internet!

stronglikedan 7y ago

Serious question, from an anxious person whose parents are nearing "that age": Is it normal for a person with dementia to have control of their finances, to the point where they can give large amounts of money away?