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> If you have nothing but a wall to stare at for 12 hours a day, you may create something useful. No one in prison has 12 hours to just stare at a wall, bein

> If you have nothing but a wall to stare at for 12 hours a day, you may create something useful. No one in prison has 12 hours to just stare at a wall, being in prison is an involved affair. It's also presumptuous that prisoners are at all in a position to manage their time or availability. Further, even if they did have the time to just stare at a wall.. what quality of work would you honestly expect? No collaboration, no hope, no incentives. Sounds like misery to me. > Such a waste of society's resources and talent. Those resources don't _belong_ to society. They belong to the individual.

seibelj 7y ago
The tax dollars I pay to house, clothe, feed, and provide medical care for people who have no reason to be imprisoned are the resources that belong to society that are being wasted. The waste of talent limits his or her contributions to the world.
ryanmercer 7y ago
>Those resources don't _belong_ to society. They belong to the individual. >Currently it costs an average of $52.61 per day ($19,202.65 per year) to keep an adult inmate incarcerated in the State of Indiana . https://faqs.in.gov/hc/en-us/articles/115005238288-How-much-does-it-cost-to-keep-an-offender-in-prison- https://faqs.in.gov/hc/en-us/articles/115005238288-How-much-... >SUMMARY: The fee to cover the average cost of incarceration for Federal inmates in Fiscal Year 2015 was $31,977.65 ($87.61 per day). (Please note: There were 365 days in FY 2015.) The average annual cost to confine an inmate in a Residential Re-entry Center for Fiscal Year 2015 was $26,082.90 ($71.46 per day) https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2016/07/19/2016-17040/annual-determination-of-average-cost-of-incarceration https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2016/07/19/2016-17... Households in Indiana have a median annual income of $55,746, the national median annual income is $61,937. Federal minimum wage is 7.25 an hour, or $15,080 annually. That doesn't even cover 1 inmate. Where do you think the money comes to fund those prisons? Taxation of everyone which is definitely society and not an individual.

seibelj 7y ago

The tax dollars I pay to house, clothe, feed, and provide medical care for people who have no reason to be imprisoned are the resources that belong to society that are being wasted. The waste of talent limits his or her contributions to the world.

ryanmercer 7y ago

>Those resources don't _belong_ to society. They belong to the individual. >Currently it costs an average of $52.61 per day ($19,202.65 per year) to keep an adult inmate incarcerated in the State of Indiana . https://faqs.in.gov/hc/en-us/articles/115005238288-How-much-does-it-cost-to-keep-an-offender-in-prison- https://faqs.in.gov/hc/en-us/articles/115005238288-How-much-... >SUMMARY: The fee to cover the average cost of incarceration for Federal inmates in Fiscal Year 2015 was $31,977.65 ($87.61 per day). (Please note: There were 365 days in FY 2015.) The average annual cost to confine an inmate in a Residential Re-entry Center for Fiscal Year 2015 was $26,082.90 ($71.46 per day) https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2016/07/19/2016-17040/annual-determination-of-average-cost-of-incarceration https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2016/07/19/2016-17... Households in Indiana have a median annual income of $55,746, the national median annual income is $61,937. Federal minimum wage is 7.25 an hour, or $15,080 annually. That doesn't even cover 1 inmate. Where do you think the money comes to fund those prisons? Taxation of everyone which is definitely society and not an individual.