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I have a new touchbar mbp at work, and feel absolutely no difference when using it or my personal 2015 retina. Any mbp's without the retina feel ancient.

l33tman 7y ago
Maybe you don't feel the difference, but everybody around you might hear the difference :) The smatter of the keys of the thinner MBP keyboards is horrible in a cafe or office or train etc.. :/ Did they make them more silent in the latest iteration?
- samatman 7y ago
  From a couple days with the new keyboard, it feels basically identical to the pre-2016 keyboards. I narrowly preferred the feel of the butterfly keys, and I like clicky keyboards in general. But I was one of the many who had keypress failures, which was infuriating. I've beaten the crap out of this style of keyboard, from Apple, without problems, so I'm optimistic that they've fixed the problem. This is my eighth Apple keyboard, and of them all, I've had keypress failures only on the seventh. And yes, to answer your question, it's considerably quieter. And has an escape key. And t-shaped arrow keys. I'm pleased.
- 72deluxe 7y ago
  My wife has to leave the room when I am working because she can't stand the noise on this 2017 MBP. 2012 MBP is no problem to her.
climb_stealth 7y ago
For what it's worth, my 2017 Macbook Pro 13" feels slower than my 2015 Macbook Pro 13". Both with maxed CPU and Memory. It also spins the fan a lot more. The 2015 was a great silent machine that stayed silent unless you pegged the CPUs for minutes at a time. With the 2017 machine every time I do something mildly taxing the fan starts going. What keeps me from going back to the 2015 is that everything at home is now set up for USB-C and I would prefer to not have two separate cabling setups for the shared desk.
72deluxe 7y ago
I hate the touchbar MBP I have for work. The touchbar turns off when you don't use the keyboard, so if you are thinking whilst staring at some debugged code and want to step into/continue the code, where have the function keys gone??? Oh they've completely disappeared and I need to press a key eg. ctrl to get them to appear again. Drives me insane a thousand times a day. The battery percentage hops up/down by a few percent when it is low, eg. 7%, 10%, 9%, 7%, 4% ALERT ALERT ALERT. I would replace the battery in it, but I can't...... I do not have this problem on my 2012. Also, on my 2012 I know how much battery life I left without having to turn the thing on. Nor do I need dongles. Plus I am not deafened by the keyboard on the 2012. Speakers on the touchbar MBP are good though! That's the only thing I can say about it.

l33tman 7y ago

Maybe you don't feel the difference, but everybody around you might hear the difference :) The smatter of the keys of the thinner MBP keyboards is horrible in a cafe or office or train etc.. :/ Did they make them more silent in the latest iteration?

samatman 7y ago
From a couple days with the new keyboard, it feels basically identical to the pre-2016 keyboards. I narrowly preferred the feel of the butterfly keys, and I like clicky keyboards in general. But I was one of the many who had keypress failures, which was infuriating. I've beaten the crap out of this style of keyboard, from Apple, without problems, so I'm optimistic that they've fixed the problem. This is my eighth Apple keyboard, and of them all, I've had keypress failures only on the seventh. And yes, to answer your question, it's considerably quieter. And has an escape key. And t-shaped arrow keys. I'm pleased.
72deluxe 7y ago
My wife has to leave the room when I am working because she can't stand the noise on this 2017 MBP. 2012 MBP is no problem to her.

climb_stealth 7y ago

For what it's worth, my 2017 Macbook Pro 13" feels slower than my 2015 Macbook Pro 13". Both with maxed CPU and Memory. It also spins the fan a lot more. The 2015 was a great silent machine that stayed silent unless you pegged the CPUs for minutes at a time. With the 2017 machine every time I do something mildly taxing the fan starts going. What keeps me from going back to the 2015 is that everything at home is now set up for USB-C and I would prefer to not have two separate cabling setups for the shared desk.

72deluxe 7y ago

I hate the touchbar MBP I have for work. The touchbar turns off when you don't use the keyboard, so if you are thinking whilst staring at some debugged code and want to step into/continue the code, where have the function keys gone??? Oh they've completely disappeared and I need to press a key eg. ctrl to get them to appear again. Drives me insane a thousand times a day. The battery percentage hops up/down by a few percent when it is low, eg. 7%, 10%, 9%, 7%, 4% ALERT ALERT ALERT. I would replace the battery in it, but I can't...... I do not have this problem on my 2012. Also, on my 2012 I know how much battery life I left without having to turn the thing on. Nor do I need dongles. Plus I am not deafened by the keyboard on the 2012. Speakers on the touchbar MBP are good though! That's the only thing I can say about it.