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iMessage has done more to hold back messaging in the US than anything else. Even if Google was competent at messaging it wouldn't matter because iOS users woul

iMessage has done more to hold back messaging in the US than anything else. Even if Google was competent at messaging it wouldn't matter because iOS users wouldn't switch and Apple refuses to open up iMessage to non-Apple devices. I'm still using SMS for most of my messaging, and I primarily blame Apple for that.

rootusrootus 7y ago
Are you asking for Apple to pay for infrastructure for non-customers to use? Or even further, that Apple design and support an Android iMessage app?
- TurningCanadian 7y ago
  Google's messenger apps work on iOS..
  - rubyn00bie 7y ago
    Google makes money from advertising, Apple does not... Google's incentive is to keep you using their platform across any device; because, that is what is in their best interest, they make their money from billions upon billions of small advertising interactions across a vast ocean of interconnected platforms and devices. Apple sells physical devices, it's their incentive to make sure the experience is great for whoever bought that device. They make their money from selling billions of devices... Apple's focus is on the "user," and Google's focus is on the "platform." Both have different types of lock-in, but have different reasons why. I still lost how it's Apple's problem that the standard interface of SMS/MMS is just totally shitty and not capable of doing what people want. Complain to your telecommunication, handset, and operating system providers/vendors to build or enable a better open standard (like RCS or whatever it is).
- noelsusman 7y ago
  Yes, and I am a customer. I own a Macbook, and I would love to use iMessage on it, but doing so would mean losing all of my messages as soon as I pick up a different device. That makes iMessage (and most Apple services) completely useless to me, a paying customer. Their decision to wall off iMessage actively hurts their own customers by preventing them from seamlessly communicating with the most popular mobile OS using modern technology. They get away with it because they're Apple and they make good products, but that doesn't mean I have to think it's good.

rootusrootus 7y ago

Are you asking for Apple to pay for infrastructure for non-customers to use? Or even further, that Apple design and support an Android iMessage app?

TurningCanadian 7y ago
Google's messenger apps work on iOS..
- rubyn00bie 7y ago
  Google makes money from advertising, Apple does not... Google's incentive is to keep you using their platform across any device; because, that is what is in their best interest, they make their money from billions upon billions of small advertising interactions across a vast ocean of interconnected platforms and devices. Apple sells physical devices, it's their incentive to make sure the experience is great for whoever bought that device. They make their money from selling billions of devices... Apple's focus is on the "user," and Google's focus is on the "platform." Both have different types of lock-in, but have different reasons why. I still lost how it's Apple's problem that the standard interface of SMS/MMS is just totally shitty and not capable of doing what people want. Complain to your telecommunication, handset, and operating system providers/vendors to build or enable a better open standard (like RCS or whatever it is).
noelsusman 7y ago
Yes, and I am a customer. I own a Macbook, and I would love to use iMessage on it, but doing so would mean losing all of my messages as soon as I pick up a different device. That makes iMessage (and most Apple services) completely useless to me, a paying customer. Their decision to wall off iMessage actively hurts their own customers by preventing them from seamlessly communicating with the most popular mobile OS using modern technology. They get away with it because they're Apple and they make good products, but that doesn't mean I have to think it's good.