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> I mean, nobody REALLY knows, but if that's the standard you are going to use, then you pretty much have to assume that any company can and will spy on you, an

> I mean, nobody REALLY knows, but if that's the standard you are going to use, then you pretty much have to assume that any company can and will spy on you, and apply the same critique to them. That is the standard I use and I do apply the same critique to every company. > Gmail, youtube, reddit and most everything that is free on the web and on mobile is your compensation for your data. First off, I don't use all of those services. According to your logic, you and every other person who has data in their system and is not using a service is owed cold hard cash. Secondly, the value that I get out of using them is not commensurate with the profit they are making. These companies are making EXORBITANT amounts of money off of peoples data. It is in no way acceptable compensation. Third, I can't opt out of them using the data, even if I stop using a service or if I never used their service at all.

ActorNightly 7y ago
>That is the standard I use and I do apply the same critique to every company. Then why are you on HN? They could be collecting your IP and data on you. >First off, I don't use all of those services. According to your logic, you and every other person who has data in their system and is not using a service is owed cold hard cash. The only data that exists for people that don't use services is 3p tracking data, which is from people visiting websites, that are supported by ads. So yes, if you view content on a website and a tracking cookie or pixel records you, that is you using the website, and the advertiser is paying the host for this which allows the host to continue hosing the website. > These companies are making EXORBITANT amounts of money off of peoples data Whoa, this is like almost a communism argument. Dictating how much money anyone should make is not a good road to go down on. There is nothing wrong with companies generating profit, they are capitalizing on supply versus demand.

ActorNightly 7y ago

>That is the standard I use and I do apply the same critique to every company. Then why are you on HN? They could be collecting your IP and data on you. >First off, I don't use all of those services. According to your logic, you and every other person who has data in their system and is not using a service is owed cold hard cash. The only data that exists for people that don't use services is 3p tracking data, which is from people visiting websites, that are supported by ads. So yes, if you view content on a website and a tracking cookie or pixel records you, that is you using the website, and the advertiser is paying the host for this which allows the host to continue hosing the website. > These companies are making EXORBITANT amounts of money off of peoples data Whoa, this is like almost a communism argument. Dictating how much money anyone should make is not a good road to go down on. There is nothing wrong with companies generating profit, they are capitalizing on supply versus demand.