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As a user, won't i a) share my data with Apple (i.e. they get to know every time i sign in) and b) makes me dependent on Apple (what happens to my account whe

by Tepix 7y ago

As a user, won't i a) share my data with Apple (i.e. they get to know every time i sign in) and b) makes me dependent on Apple (what happens to my account when i sell all my Apple devices?) ?

tusharsoni 7y ago
As a developer, it's our responsibility to provide users with at least 2 options. While Sign in with Apple is convenient and seems to be fairly popular, users should be in control of their data. Some stats from my app where users have the option to either Sign in with Apple or use their phone number: 73% use Sign in with Apple and the rest using their phone number. If it was a privacy issue, wouldn't people rather trust Apple than an indie developer?
- OrgNet 7y ago
  I wish I could signup with just username and password (no email)... because gmail knows everything now (I don't mind having no password recovery option in many cases)
crooked-v 7y ago
> what happens to my account when i sell all my Apple devices? Apple ID doesn't depend on having Apple devices, and you can associate it with arbitrary email addresses.
toasterlovin 7y ago
> a) share my data with Apple (i.e. they get to know every time i sign in) They're only requiring this when there are other social login options available. It's not a bid to get access to your private information. It's designed to make it so you're not forced to share your information with Google/FB/Twitter. This existing is strictly better for users.
- vvG94KbDUtRa 7y ago
  Ummm it's also strictly better for apple. They do get to know every time you sign in, instead of another company getting that. It's certainly not better for users than creating a separate account tied to a separate email for every service without a big company in between.
  - toasterlovin 7y ago
    > It's certainly not better for users than creating a separate account tied to a separate email for every service without a big company in between. Some apps don't offer this as an option and force social login. Apple's new rules require Sign In With Apple any time a developer has implemented another social login. So, strictly speaking, this always guarantees more options for users. And Sign In With Apple doesn't leak any other information about you to the app developer. This is a win for privacy, even if it's not the best possible scenario. The world is not perfect. Measures to make it slightly less imperfect are how we walk the path to a better future.

by Tepix 7y ago

As a user, won't i a) share my data with Apple (i.e. they get to know every time i sign in) and b) makes me dependent on Apple (what happens to my account when i sell all my Apple devices?) ?

tusharsoni 7y ago

As a developer, it's our responsibility to provide users with at least 2 options. While Sign in with Apple is convenient and seems to be fairly popular, users should be in control of their data. Some stats from my app where users have the option to either Sign in with Apple or use their phone number: 73% use Sign in with Apple and the rest using their phone number. If it was a privacy issue, wouldn't people rather trust Apple than an indie developer?

OrgNet 7y ago
I wish I could signup with just username and password (no email)... because gmail knows everything now (I don't mind having no password recovery option in many cases)

crooked-v 7y ago

> what happens to my account when i sell all my Apple devices? Apple ID doesn't depend on having Apple devices, and you can associate it with arbitrary email addresses.

toasterlovin 7y ago

> a) share my data with Apple (i.e. they get to know every time i sign in) They're only requiring this when there are other social login options available. It's not a bid to get access to your private information. It's designed to make it so you're not forced to share your information with Google/FB/Twitter. This existing is strictly better for users.

vvG94KbDUtRa 7y ago
Ummm it's also strictly better for apple. They do get to know every time you sign in, instead of another company getting that. It's certainly not better for users than creating a separate account tied to a separate email for every service without a big company in between.
- toasterlovin 7y ago
  > It's certainly not better for users than creating a separate account tied to a separate email for every service without a big company in between. Some apps don't offer this as an option and force social login. Apple's new rules require Sign In With Apple any time a developer has implemented another social login. So, strictly speaking, this always guarantees more options for users. And Sign In With Apple doesn't leak any other information about you to the app developer. This is a win for privacy, even if it's not the best possible scenario. The world is not perfect. Measures to make it slightly less imperfect are how we walk the path to a better future.