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is there a way to invest in psilocybin?

agilebyte 7y ago
If you are an accredited investor you could follow companies like Orthogonal - https://www.orthogonalthinker.com https://www.orthogonalthinker.com It doesn't seem like you can easily invest right now.
- kf 7y ago
  Sounds like you have to invest in their entire portfolio to get exposure to their nascent psilocybin research.
fourstar 7y ago
Ah. Here we go. The tech vultures wanting to get their hands on everything and commercialize it.
- umc0der 7y ago
  Or, framing it in another light, maybe they want to support something they have tried and believe in.
- gimmeasandwich 7y ago
  You know you're on ycombinator, right? It seems perfectly natural to want to commercialize something people want.
  - fourstar 7y ago
    Sure maybe today’s HN. Not the one I joined 12 years ago. When there were actual hackers.
    - nicehat 7y ago
      Careful there. Comments like this are off-topic, political, overly meta and ungood. Please review our comment guidelines and refrain from ever pointing out HN flaws / changes, or we'll have to shadow-ban you without any accountability.
    - dang 7y ago
      HN was Startup News before it was Hacker News. It has always had a strong entrepreneurial orientation.
      - nicehat 7y ago
        There sure has been a shift though. You'd be just the guy to shed some light on these changes. For example, when did flagged comments become unreadable, rather than simply folded up by default? I'd like to see the logic on that one, if any was given at all. Was there an algorithm change that lets popular stories under active discussion on touchy subjects get disappeared with a few flags, or was that here from the start too? Are there any logs you can point me to that would reveal the scale of removed stories over time?
        dang 7y ago
        It's hard to know what specifically you're referring to, but to the extent that I understand your questions, the answer is that things have worked that way for many years, certainly before I started moderating in 2012. There was no need to post all those sibling comments; I didn't reply sooner because I simply hadn't seen this yet. That's one reason why the site guidelines ask you to email hn@ycombinator.com instead of posting like this in the threads. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
      - nicehat 7y ago
        Not rhetorical questions above. Come on bud, make some kind of answer, or point me to where the answers are.
      - nicehat 7y ago
        Dang do these questions bother you for some reason? If the answers aren't damning why avoid answering?
      - nicehat 7y ago
        If this is not the appropriate channel to ask these questions, could you :do your job: and point me to it?
- dang 7y ago
  "Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith." https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
shoes_for_thee 7y ago
contribute to MAPS
- kf 7y ago
  That's a donation rather than an investment but they might take money for their B-corp wholly owned subsidiaries at some points. Donating money to MAPS and getting on their conference and private dinner circuit as a big money person is for better or worse the way to eventually gain access to those kinds of deals, but I know they've been wining and dining enough billionaires at this point that they don't really need the money and other non-profits in the space are better opportunities. I'll likely be starting some kind of non-profit in the space with Thomas Ray within the next year. Check out his research: https://www.transformpress.com/breadth-and-depth https://www.transformpress.com/breadth-and-depth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygDULQ9AY7c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygDULQ9AY7c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxrAUIIbkeM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxrAUIIbkeM
kf 7y ago
For-profit conference people that made money running cannabis conferences have started running psychedelic investment conferences but I have been told by those on the circuit that they are bullshit money grabs and that you should not attend. Two years from now they'll probably be real and still run by the same bullshit artists as today. You could invest in quasi-legal grow ops in areas where mushrooms have been mostly decriminalized, like Oakland, California. You could invest in the largest marijuana companies that are the most likely to pivot to other plant medicines. But, otherwise, basically, no, there is no reasonable way to invest in psychedelic mushrooms right now. Possibly buying domain names. Something I did predicting the future of this industry was buy buylsd.com 5 years ago for $1500 (not operating now obviously until that's legal but another ten years would be a long time, I think). www.buymushrooms.com will similarly go up enormously in value in a future with widely legal drugs, at least as long as that is still a future with .com type in traffic and prioritized search engine rankings. I don't own buymushrooms.com but that would probably be a great investment at $10k, questionable at over $100k.

If you are an accredited investor you could follow companies like Orthogonal - https://www.orthogonalthinker.com https://www.orthogonalthinker.com It doesn't seem like you can easily invest right now.

kf 7y ago
Sounds like you have to invest in their entire portfolio to get exposure to their nascent psilocybin research.

fourstar 7y ago

Ah. Here we go. The tech vultures wanting to get their hands on everything and commercialize it.

umc0der 7y ago
Or, framing it in another light, maybe they want to support something they have tried and believe in.
gimmeasandwich 7y ago
You know you're on ycombinator, right? It seems perfectly natural to want to commercialize something people want.
- fourstar 7y ago
  Sure maybe today’s HN. Not the one I joined 12 years ago. When there were actual hackers.
  - nicehat 7y ago
    Careful there. Comments like this are off-topic, political, overly meta and ungood. Please review our comment guidelines and refrain from ever pointing out HN flaws / changes, or we'll have to shadow-ban you without any accountability.
  - dang 7y ago
    HN was Startup News before it was Hacker News. It has always had a strong entrepreneurial orientation.
    - nicehat 7y ago
      There sure has been a shift though. You'd be just the guy to shed some light on these changes. For example, when did flagged comments become unreadable, rather than simply folded up by default? I'd like to see the logic on that one, if any was given at all. Was there an algorithm change that lets popular stories under active discussion on touchy subjects get disappeared with a few flags, or was that here from the start too? Are there any logs you can point me to that would reveal the scale of removed stories over time?
      - dang 7y ago
        It's hard to know what specifically you're referring to, but to the extent that I understand your questions, the answer is that things have worked that way for many years, certainly before I started moderating in 2012. There was no need to post all those sibling comments; I didn't reply sooner because I simply hadn't seen this yet. That's one reason why the site guidelines ask you to email hn@ycombinator.com instead of posting like this in the threads. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
    - nicehat 7y ago
      Not rhetorical questions above. Come on bud, make some kind of answer, or point me to where the answers are.
    - nicehat 7y ago
      Dang do these questions bother you for some reason? If the answers aren't damning why avoid answering?
    - nicehat 7y ago
      If this is not the appropriate channel to ask these questions, could you :do your job: and point me to it?
dang 7y ago
"Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith." https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

shoes_for_thee 7y ago

contribute to MAPS

kf 7y ago
That's a donation rather than an investment but they might take money for their B-corp wholly owned subsidiaries at some points. Donating money to MAPS and getting on their conference and private dinner circuit as a big money person is for better or worse the way to eventually gain access to those kinds of deals, but I know they've been wining and dining enough billionaires at this point that they don't really need the money and other non-profits in the space are better opportunities. I'll likely be starting some kind of non-profit in the space with Thomas Ray within the next year. Check out his research: https://www.transformpress.com/breadth-and-depth https://www.transformpress.com/breadth-and-depth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygDULQ9AY7c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygDULQ9AY7c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxrAUIIbkeM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxrAUIIbkeM

kf 7y ago

For-profit conference people that made money running cannabis conferences have started running psychedelic investment conferences but I have been told by those on the circuit that they are bullshit money grabs and that you should not attend. Two years from now they'll probably be real and still run by the same bullshit artists as today. You could invest in quasi-legal grow ops in areas where mushrooms have been mostly decriminalized, like Oakland, California. You could invest in the largest marijuana companies that are the most likely to pivot to other plant medicines. But, otherwise, basically, no, there is no reasonable way to invest in psychedelic mushrooms right now. Possibly buying domain names. Something I did predicting the future of this industry was buy buylsd.com 5 years ago for $1500 (not operating now obviously until that's legal but another ten years would be a long time, I think). www.buymushrooms.com will similarly go up enormously in value in a future with widely legal drugs, at least as long as that is still a future with .com type in traffic and prioritized search engine rankings. I don't own buymushrooms.com but that would probably be a great investment at $10k, questionable at over $100k.