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>but the most confusing experience possible for actual users What do you mean? I think KDE is not confusing at all, you have the bottom taskbar, you have the s

>but the most confusing experience possible for actual users What do you mean? I think KDE is not confusing at all, you have the bottom taskbar, you have the start menu you alt+tab betwen applications. The only complaints similar to yours are from people that dislike the Settings section, there is a reason that section is complex and that is the Linux desktop is complex, there are many parts like(Qt,GTK, window manager, shell etc) but you could always have a distribution hide the settings by default and provide a KDE for newbs with almost no options and rename Settings to KDE Tweaks and you install the features from internet or hack plasmoids to add or remove paddings and features.

jacobush 7y ago
"Could" have, is the key. There is no push from the project itself. I'm not saying there needs to be, but I think KDE lost millions of users because of it. Imagine if ElementaryOS also were the people behind Gnome, or behind KDE. THAT would be spell quality software. Alas, this is not how open source works.
- simion314 7y ago
  KDE developers and contributors are (or were) mainly interested in features and not looks or how to remove things, I submitted fixes and patches to add things and most of the time this were welcomed(the only issue I and the community had was with a former maintaqiner of Plasma that did not want to add option to remove the Cachew thing because he had a vision and similar GNOME like bullshit, I am happy he is gone), so I think KDE attracts this more advanced contributors and users and also GNOME people when asked to add X they will tell you to use KDE if you don't like the GNOME way, but ont he other hand you have other GNOME people demanding KDE be like GNOME, There is an effort in KDE to fix usability issues and improve things but it is all or mainly non paid people, but if more similar contributors would be attracted we will probably get some more polish but int he end the KDE will always have all the features it's developers and current users want.

jacobush 7y ago

"Could" have, is the key. There is no push from the project itself. I'm not saying there needs to be, but I think KDE lost millions of users because of it. Imagine if ElementaryOS also were the people behind Gnome, or behind KDE. THAT would be spell quality software. Alas, this is not how open source works.

simion314 7y ago
KDE developers and contributors are (or were) mainly interested in features and not looks or how to remove things, I submitted fixes and patches to add things and most of the time this were welcomed(the only issue I and the community had was with a former maintaqiner of Plasma that did not want to add option to remove the Cachew thing because he had a vision and similar GNOME like bullshit, I am happy he is gone), so I think KDE attracts this more advanced contributors and users and also GNOME people when asked to add X they will tell you to use KDE if you don't like the GNOME way, but ont he other hand you have other GNOME people demanding KDE be like GNOME, There is an effort in KDE to fix usability issues and improve things but it is all or mainly non paid people, but if more similar contributors would be attracted we will probably get some more polish but int he end the KDE will always have all the features it's developers and current users want.