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Mac mini too expensive? I'm not sure. Also I've ran some benchmarks against my friend's hackintosh and smoked it. I mean read his specs, it's not cheap at all.

by keyle 7y ago

Mac mini too expensive? I'm not sure. Also I've ran some benchmarks against my friend's hackintosh and smoked it. I mean read his specs, it's not cheap at all. Fractal cases are not cheap, and the RTX 580 that he will upgrade once he gets to Catalina? Right, that's cheap. Those little mac minis are beasts if you ask me. Mine is called minibeef ;) I've added an eGPU to it and it's powerhouse for all of my work, in spades. Edit: my geekbench score is 5547 single and 23621 multi, that seems to be much higher than the posted specs.

morid1n 7y ago
A comparable Mac Mini spec, without an eGPU, HDDs, a Core i7 instead of an i9, costs 2700, which is 1000 USD more expensive than what I paid for this build. The CPU is also slower. Add an eGPU and we’re talking another 500-600 USD and still slower than an i9.
omegabravo 7y ago
Something appears to be wrong with your benchmarking. You should be in the vicinity of 1100 ST, 5600 MT
- morid1n 7y ago
  Older version of Geekbench.
nik736 7y ago
The Mac Mini has no integrated GPU and is dead because of this reason. Why would I buy such an elegant device if I have to hook an ugly eGPU case.
- chrisseaton 7y ago
  > The Mac Mini has no integrated GPU They do - they use Intel UHD Graphics 630, which is an Intel GT integrated GPU https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Graphics_Technology https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Graphics_Technology. How did you think they were running the display? They can't squeeze a tiny discrete graphics card in there!
  - nik736 7y ago
    Yes, I know, and the iGPU is complete dogshit. Why would I spend 2k+ on a device that is completely limited by it's GPU. It is not even able to run scaled 4k screens properly. And regarding the size: Who cares? It's not a portable device, so make it a bit bigger and no one cares but is happy that the hardware is better.
    - chrisseaton 7y ago
      > Yes, I know Lol you said it didn't have one a second ago!
      - diffeomorphism 7y ago
        No, he said that it does not have a (worthwhile) GPU inside the case and made the unfortunate word choice "integrated". Hence the need for an eGPU. Your interpretation of what he/she wrote makes no sense for any non-server hardware. If it can show something on the screen it obviously has a GPU (it just might be garbage).
        chrisseaton 7y ago
        An 'integrated' GPU is one on the processor die, not one inside the case.
        diffeomorphism 7y ago
        Hence why I said unfortunate word choice.
  - pb82 7y ago
    Not a discrete one, but there are much better mobile Radeons available. Like the ones they put in the Mac Books. Would be nice if they offered that on the higher end models.
- rado 7y ago
  It should be thicker, with a real GPU. Now it's unusable on a 4K display. Shame.
morid1n 7y ago
You’re using an older version of Geekbench. Use the same version as me to compare (Geekbench 5).
H1Supreme 7y ago
The Mini's wouldn't be bad if they didn't absolutely gouge you for RAM and HD upgrades. A 1TB drive and 16GB of RAM adds $600 to the total. What? That's at least double what you'd pay at Newegg, if not more.

by keyle 7y ago

morid1n 7y ago

A comparable Mac Mini spec, without an eGPU, HDDs, a Core i7 instead of an i9, costs 2700, which is 1000 USD more expensive than what I paid for this build. The CPU is also slower. Add an eGPU and we’re talking another 500-600 USD and still slower than an i9.

omegabravo 7y ago

Something appears to be wrong with your benchmarking. You should be in the vicinity of 1100 ST, 5600 MT

morid1n 7y ago
Older version of Geekbench.

nik736 7y ago

The Mac Mini has no integrated GPU and is dead because of this reason. Why would I buy such an elegant device if I have to hook an ugly eGPU case.

chrisseaton 7y ago
> The Mac Mini has no integrated GPU They do - they use Intel UHD Graphics 630, which is an Intel GT integrated GPU https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Graphics_Technology https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Graphics_Technology. How did you think they were running the display? They can't squeeze a tiny discrete graphics card in there!
- nik736 7y ago
  Yes, I know, and the iGPU is complete dogshit. Why would I spend 2k+ on a device that is completely limited by it's GPU. It is not even able to run scaled 4k screens properly. And regarding the size: Who cares? It's not a portable device, so make it a bit bigger and no one cares but is happy that the hardware is better.
  - chrisseaton 7y ago
    > Yes, I know Lol you said it didn't have one a second ago!
    - diffeomorphism 7y ago
      No, he said that it does not have a (worthwhile) GPU inside the case and made the unfortunate word choice "integrated". Hence the need for an eGPU. Your interpretation of what he/she wrote makes no sense for any non-server hardware. If it can show something on the screen it obviously has a GPU (it just might be garbage).
      - chrisseaton 7y ago
        An 'integrated' GPU is one on the processor die, not one inside the case.
        diffeomorphism 7y ago
        Hence why I said unfortunate word choice.
- pb82 7y ago
  Not a discrete one, but there are much better mobile Radeons available. Like the ones they put in the Mac Books. Would be nice if they offered that on the higher end models.
rado 7y ago
It should be thicker, with a real GPU. Now it's unusable on a 4K display. Shame.

morid1n 7y ago

You’re using an older version of Geekbench. Use the same version as me to compare (Geekbench 5).

H1Supreme 7y ago

The Mini's wouldn't be bad if they didn't absolutely gouge you for RAM and HD upgrades. A 1TB drive and 16GB of RAM adds $600 to the total. What? That's at least double what you'd pay at Newegg, if not more.