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If I'm passing at 5 over the limit, I'm still passing. I waited my turn. Not my fault I don't want to go 20+ over. I'll move back when the passed car is in my

If I'm passing at 5 over the limit, I'm still passing. I waited my turn. Not my fault I don't want to go 20+ over. I'll move back when the passed car is in my rear view. Oh, you really to ride my rear, and pay me on the right? Will Joe we have a problem because I'm happy merged into the right line and you're on my as, and now you're 3 feet from both me and the car were passing. That's what I got from this comment... Just forget encourages already aggressive driving. Of course, some people do not pass, and that is frustrating.

gjs278 7y ago
if you don’t want to go 20 over don’t even go in that lane
scarejunba 7y ago
Surely it's only polite to allow the faster guys past before you do your thing. It doesn't really matter to me generally because few things on the highway annoy me, but it's sort of habit for me to not be in the way. So even if I'm doing 10 over and there's a chap coming up doing 20 over, I let him go before I go. You don't have to do that, and I won't judge you for it. It just seems like a harmlessly nice thing to do for your fellow driver. And it's rare to be in a situation where it's reasonable for you to overtake at 5 mph more than the other car while there are +20s whizzing by so it doesn't seem like it's really something that needs defending.
beerandt 7y ago
It's not necessarily about who's turn it is, or what's "just". It's about driving rules that are crystal clear, that will end up maximizing traffic flow, clarifying r-o-w order, and minimizing time of conflict. >Not my fault I don't want to go 20+ over. No, but I think that people see it this way is part of the problem. It becomes a sort of moral game of chicken, with one side thinking one rule is more important, and vice versa. It shouldn't be debatable. Both sides should automatically know who has r-o-w without thinking, even if the rule is arbitrary. The entire system operates around this premise. And because speed is always going to be a personal sliding scale (maybe 5 over is ok but 20 isn't), the simplest, most practical, consistent resolution (whether "fair" or not) is to yield the lane to the passer behind you. Look at it this way: You wouldn't worry about momentary speed to pass someone on a two lane road, if you needed to. You'd focus on getting past and getting over before the oncoming traffic gets to you. It should be the same way on multi-lane highways, even if the traffic is overtaking instead of oncoming. That's why it's called the passing lane.
sershe 7y ago
There should be a very simple rule - if there's a car behind you in the left lane, no car ahead of you, and this situation persists for a bit, merge right. Make the /right/ choice - the pedal, or the lane ;)
- beerandt 7y ago
  Why put the conditional if? Avoid conflict entirely by eliminating judgement calls. Like how close a car needs to be in front or behind you for you to react. It just provides justification (in their mind) for a driver to stay left. Just pass and get over, regardless of if anyone is behind you. Driving rules should be as simple as possible. The fact that the lane isn't being used by anyone else isn't an excuse for you to use it as you see fit. Anymore than driving on the wrong side of a 2-lane road, just because there's no oncoming traffic.

gjs278 7y ago

if you don’t want to go 20 over don’t even go in that lane

scarejunba 7y ago

Surely it's only polite to allow the faster guys past before you do your thing. It doesn't really matter to me generally because few things on the highway annoy me, but it's sort of habit for me to not be in the way. So even if I'm doing 10 over and there's a chap coming up doing 20 over, I let him go before I go. You don't have to do that, and I won't judge you for it. It just seems like a harmlessly nice thing to do for your fellow driver. And it's rare to be in a situation where it's reasonable for you to overtake at 5 mph more than the other car while there are +20s whizzing by so it doesn't seem like it's really something that needs defending.

beerandt 7y ago

It's not necessarily about who's turn it is, or what's "just". It's about driving rules that are crystal clear, that will end up maximizing traffic flow, clarifying r-o-w order, and minimizing time of conflict. >Not my fault I don't want to go 20+ over. No, but I think that people see it this way is part of the problem. It becomes a sort of moral game of chicken, with one side thinking one rule is more important, and vice versa. It shouldn't be debatable. Both sides should automatically know who has r-o-w without thinking, even if the rule is arbitrary. The entire system operates around this premise. And because speed is always going to be a personal sliding scale (maybe 5 over is ok but 20 isn't), the simplest, most practical, consistent resolution (whether "fair" or not) is to yield the lane to the passer behind you. Look at it this way: You wouldn't worry about momentary speed to pass someone on a two lane road, if you needed to. You'd focus on getting past and getting over before the oncoming traffic gets to you. It should be the same way on multi-lane highways, even if the traffic is overtaking instead of oncoming. That's why it's called the passing lane.

sershe 7y ago

There should be a very simple rule - if there's a car behind you in the left lane, no car ahead of you, and this situation persists for a bit, merge right. Make the /right/ choice - the pedal, or the lane ;)

beerandt 7y ago
Why put the conditional if? Avoid conflict entirely by eliminating judgement calls. Like how close a car needs to be in front or behind you for you to react. It just provides justification (in their mind) for a driver to stay left. Just pass and get over, regardless of if anyone is behind you. Driving rules should be as simple as possible. The fact that the lane isn't being used by anyone else isn't an excuse for you to use it as you see fit. Anymore than driving on the wrong side of a 2-lane road, just because there's no oncoming traffic.