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There are processes to punish people and companies if they violate a ban and get found out. Works for theft, murder and other things.
by Ididntdothis 7y ago
There are processes to punish people and companies if they violate a ban and get found out. Works for theft, murder and other things.
- TylerE 7y agoDoesn't really work for corporations. (See: Dieselgate). They don't get caught for years, if ever.
- Ididntdothis 7y agoThen that needs to be fixed. We can’t just accept that companies are above the law.
- TylerE 7y agoSo, kind of tying back to earlier ideas.. the government should regulate effectively... a major source is "off road" engines like lawn mowers. Diesel cars are not. (Trucks yes, but as ever ever those standards are far laxer)
- catalogia 7y agoWhat are you saying? Do you oppose emissions controls because Volkswagen lied? If I rob a bank despite that being against the law, perhaps that makes you think bank robbery should be legal.
- TylerE 7y agoI'm saying that we shouldn't make kneejerk bans of things there is no hope of actually enforcing.
- catalogia 7y agoLet's drop the bank robbery example since I brought it up and maybe you feel it's an uncharitable example. But you brought up VW's emissions fraud. Do you really believe what they did should be legal, just because they got away with it for years?
- TylerE 7y agoNot especially - although I also feel that they were unfairly villainized because the cars were still WAY cleaner than stuff built the year before the new emissions laws. I'd also note that subsequently just about every other mfger was caught doing variations of the same thing. Vehicle testing (emissions, especially, but MPG also) are highly synthetic measurements that aren't very representative of real world conditions. But to come back to the point at hand - a ban on "facial recognition" is so vague that it doesn't actually accomplish anything - the companies will still do it, they'll just call it something else. "Biometrics", "Posture analysis", "Location monitoring". Historically, government gets tech wrong, and getting it wrong fast just makes the situation worse.
- Ididntdothis 7y agoI was around when the emissions rules were less strict. If you compare the air back then vs today you see quickly that environmental regulations were a big success. Companies fought them tooth and nail at every step but the rules worked.
- TylerE 7y agoCertainly true, but the regulations VW violated went into force in 2009. We're not talking about the smog era.
- Ididntdothis 7y agoWe still have plenty of unnncessary smog. This is not over.
- simplify 7y agoBanning something by law is not just about enforcing it, but also sending a message to the public as to how it should perceived.