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I'd expect the same privacy we were getting before such technology came along.
by mehrdadn 7y ago
I'd expect the same privacy we were getting before such technology came along.
- TylerE 7y agoWhich is none? Anyone can walk up to you on the street and take your picture.
- mehrdadn 7y agoAnd I'd be fine with that whenever that would happen by a person organically making the decision to do so.
- nitrogen 7y agoNext gig economy job/alternate reality game: public surveillance
- mirimir 7y agoYeah, like Followr in Gibson's Agency.
- ta999999171 7y agoPublic plate scanning as a job into private databases for private investigators, repo men, and the feds to purchase already exists.
- catalogia 7y agoDoing that systematically is called stalking.
- Polylactic_acid 7y agoIf you purposely ignore the power of new tech. Might as well say nothing changed with the invention of earth moving machinery because you could have done the same thing with a shovel.
- TylerE 7y agoWay to miss the point. The invention of the bulldozer didn't change property rights.
- caconym_ 7y agoI don't think he's missing the point so much as you're missing his, possibly intentionally. The point is that the degree to which something is possible at scale has an impact on the practical applications of that thing, and therefore on the people subject to its application. Viz., earth moving machinery (and related engineering) has made possible things that would previously have required orders of magnitude more time and/or manpower, likely making them economically infeasible except in rare cases where money was no object. He didn't say anything about property rights. That was you... for some reason.
- Polylactic_acid 7y agoOur existing laws and ideas of privacy were build based on the limitations of the current tech. Yes you could take a photo of a random person in public but it wasn't very useful or harmful to do so. Now we have supercharged spyware tech we have the ability to cause a lot of harm without being in violation of any existing laws because such a thing simply wasn't possible previously.
- TylerE 7y agoCitation needed. Current laws predate the invention of such fundamental technology as the camera, never mind video recording.
- scrps 7y agoSaying technological changes don't subvert the underlying structure of a concept is like saying war didn't change after the introduction of gunpowder or flight. These technological changes add additional dimensions, they may not radically change the initial structure but they lead to radically different outcomes than anticipated which society doesn't have to accept.
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- Barrin92 7y agoWorthwhile to point out that this applies predominantly to the US. In many countries, public pictures can only be taken with the individuals' consent, Germany for example and many other European countries have a 'right to your own image/likeness' or a concept along similar lines. That said the difference between law enforcement collecting your data and private citizens should also be obvious.
- stubish 7y agoThe camera was invented and this became a problem for public figures. It became more of a problem with digital photography. Much more of a problem with camera phones. And became the privacy nightmare we are now dealing with around the rise of Twitter and Instagram.
- dTal 7y agoThere's a huge quantitative and qualitative difference between the possibility of something happening once, and it actually happening 24/7. It's like the difference between listening to Coltrane in the afternoon, vs operating a 24h trumpet school out of your living room.