> Seems to be correlation does not equal causation here. True, not necessarily. But likewise, speculation does not equal evidence. The actual evidence suggests

> Seems to be correlation does not equal causation here. True, not necessarily. But likewise, speculation does not equal evidence. The actual evidence suggests that the US ultimatum to the Egyptian military was a strong force toward Mubarak stepping down, and it correlates more highly timeline-wise than the protestors actions. I could plot it on a graph and it would make it more apparent. Obviously the Egyptian military leadership also had a strong say in what happened. Many things probably had to be a certain way for things to happen like they did. But to imply that the actions of say, the government of New Zealand or Lichtenstein somehow played as strong a role and deserve as much credit as the the US government (or the Egyptian military leadership or the Egyptian protestors) I think is not reasonable based on the reality of it. Giving billions to a dictatorship may be bad but it also gives the giving country a lot of political leverage when they want some kind of change on the receiving end. To somehow hand wave that away as not being significant is not realistic I think.