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The flipside of this is: how effective is preparing actually going to be? If you look at what most preppers are doing, not very. As an avid hiker and rock clim
by kerkeslager 7y ago
The flipside of this is: how effective is preparing actually going to be? If you look at what most preppers are doing, not very.
As an avid hiker and rock climber, when I watch a lot of prepper videos on YouTube, I find a lot of laughable ideas.
* About 50% of the preppers I see have seemingly no concern for cross-contamination of their water system, and no anti-diarrheals in their med kits to deal with the giardia they aren't preventing.
* Paracord is popular among preppers, but it's pretty unclear why. I've literally never seen a prepper demonstrate hanging a bear bag, which is literally the only reason I've ever used paracord in the wild. Lashing together structures boy-scout-style requires a lot more cord than they are carrying, and having hiked a few thousand miles in my hiking career, I don't think I've ever felt that lashing together a structure was necessary or even worth the effort, despite that being a skill I'm proficient at. The fanciest paracords out there have metal wire (for electricity) and fishing line inside the paracord--maybe it's just me, but I would rather just carry the fishing line separately, and I can't imagine a situation where I have access to electricity and not wire. It's also unclear to me whether any of these preppers actually have any skills as electricians.
* Knives: the number one item I find left behind on trails are these giant Bowie knives. People buy them at an army surplus or sporting goods store, and then a few miles onto the trail they realize their pack is really heavy, and the item that stands out as the most weight with the least usefulness is the 3 pound knife. I carry a CRKT NIAD[1] when rock climbing, and a Snow Peak knife (part of a cutlery set--I think an older version of this[2]). What these knives have in common is that they are extremely light. But what do preppers have? In some cases, the Bowie knives aren't even close to the largest things.
* Guns: while preppers seem unconcerned with the weight of their knives, when it comes to guns, weight suddenly seems to be a concern. To achieve low weight, it seems most preppers are willing to settle for the idea that they're never going to hunt for, or defend themselves from, anything larger than a jackrabbit. Almost all the popular "prepper guns", i.e. this Henry AR7[3] are in caliber .22LR, which beyond being a tiny round, has reliability issues. Of course, there are also preppers who go to the other extreme[4]; if you've got your 9mm handgun, .22LR rifle, 12 gauge shotgun, .308 bolt action, and .223 AR15, I hope you're in your gun bunker when the apocalypse happens, because you're not moving anywhere with a quarter of of a ton of firearms and ammo. Personally, I think fishing would be far more consistent for food, and I don't have the stomach for violence even in self-defense (maybe once, but on a consistent basis?) so I'd probably rather use the weight for carrying a light fishing kit and more food.
I don't mean all of this to come across as super harsh on the prepper community. If you enjoy collecting this stuff, do it. I'm not criticizing what anyone does for fun, and it's pretty unlikely that you'll ever have to rely on this stuff, so there's no real harm. I'm just saying that if my experience in the outdoors is any indication, a lot of attempts to prepare for life that doesn't rely on civilization are pretty ineffective.
[1] https://www.crkt.com/niad.html https://www.crkt.com/niad.html
[2] https://snowpeak.com/collections/cutlery/products/titanium-fork-and-spoon-set-sct-002 https://snowpeak.com/collections/cutlery/products/titanium-f...
[3] https://www.henryusa.com/rifles/u-s-survival-ar-7/ https://www.henryusa.com/rifles/u-s-survival-ar-7/
[4] https://prepperswill.com/5-guns-every-prepper-should-own/ https://prepperswill.com/5-guns-every-prepper-should-own/
- kragen 7y ago> Paracord is popular among preppers, but it's pretty unclear why Rambo cosplay. More charitably, paracord is a known quantity, and they idolize ex-soldiers, who are of course familiar with its uses. If you wanted to maximize strength to weight ratio, you'd be a lot better off with gel-spun UHMWPE braid, like Dyneema or Spectra, in your pocket; nylon breaks around 200 MPa, while Dyneema is 3–4 GPa, about 15–20 times stronger. For the 249-kg load of type-III paracord, you can use 1-mm UHMWPE instead of 4-mm type-III paracord, so you can carry 16 times as much of it by length, or 20 times as much if weight was the limiting factor. It's not a simple drop-in replacement, though. UHMWPE is much more vulnerable to ultraviolet degradation, is much more slippery, and is enormously less stretchy than nylon. Also, it floats in water and melts at a much lower temperature. These can be disadvantages, but they can also be advantages; for example, due to the elasticity difference, if the limiting factor is shock absorption, nylon is vastly superior, but if it's a matter of holding things in place, UHMWPE is vastly superior. > giant Bowie knives Yeah. Your choice of a 17-gram Cro-Moly knife with a titanium handle is clearly more reasonable if your objective is to cut things. But the Bowie knives fit better into the Rambo cosplay. In both cases, though, some of what you're seeing is conservatism and tradition: people are choosing a particular article because it's been used for three generations and its weaknesses are known. Paracord isn't going to surprise you by melting when you pull it around a tree branch too fast, and UHMWPE can totally do that.
- killjoywashere 7y agoAs a thoroughly non-prepper person in the military who has been through a number of disasters, I definitely go through paracord enough to consider it a staple. It's just handy to have some "rope" (1), and paracord is decent at holding a knot but doesn't take up as much space as "rope" . (1) I'm in the Navy; I can go on for hours about "rope". I'm using "rope" as a massive placeholder.
- kragen 7y agoRope? This sounds interesting. UHMWPE braid is shitty at holding a knot.
- 7y ago