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He didn't say he was sorry. He just said he will stop.
by nicelios 16y ago
He didn't say he was sorry. He just said he will stop.
- burgerbrain 16y agoExactly my point. He's sorry that he got called out, nothing more.
- j_baker 16y agoSo? Isn't the most important thing that he's stopping?
- burgerbrain 16y agoI repeat myself, but: "The damage is already done."
- j_baker 16y agoYou're not interested in an apology... You don't care that he stopped. What exactly do you want from him then?
- burgerbrain 16y agoI am interested in an apology. He has not given one, despite this so called "reversal". A sincere apology would involve 1) apologizing/admitting wrong-doing and 2) undoing the damage. I could certainly settle for only the second.
- carussell 16y agoRe your 2: it's not really up to Monsanto to restore the deleted articles. It's not his call, and if it went through Afd once, to recreate the articles would be to see them get redeleted.
- intended 16y agoBut why would he apologize? He sees himself as following the letter of the law, and points out that if this is an issue, change the law. Honestly this sounds like 2 things - A cry of help from Wikipedia stating they need concerted outside help/force to fix something they can see is broken/can be improved A lawyer saying that its not his fault the rules are what they are.
- copper 16y agoThe important thing would be restoring the articles. As far as I can see, that isn't happening (yet). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_(programming_language) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_(programming_language) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nemerle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nemerle I might just be seeing a cached version, though. edit: grr, I cannot reply to you, but yes, that was my point exactly: he could request a deletion review.
- j_baker 16y agoChris is just another Wikipedian though. He has the same ability to undo the changes as you do.
- rst 16y agoHe's not "just another Wikipedian", he's the particular Wikipedian that made this mess. So he has a particular responsibility to clean it up.
- j_baker 16y agoAhem... Let me rephrase my above comment. Anything Chris can do, you can do. Perhaps rather than complaining about who "should" clean it up, you can actually do it yourself?
- parfe 16y agoHe didn't get called out. He got harassed excessively. People with no interest in a language they've never heard of suddenly began venting irrational rage at a guy for suggesting that a language article might not be notable. The solution to a wiki page being marked AfD is to improve the article with useful citations or discuss why the current citations are enough to verify the article. It's not to stalk both online and offline the person who suggested a discussion should be had on the notability of a topic.