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On the other hand...the road is the road. It's not like the logistics companies are trying to automate train traffic, public transit is all about them boats and

On the other hand...the road is the road. It's not like the logistics companies are trying to automate train traffic, public transit is all about them boats and others are into the road business. They're all on the road and the main thing that might differ is the behaviour of their transport to a certain extent (eg trucks vs cars) You could focus on highways only for logistics transport but even then you might need to be able to react to a sudden pedestrian...even if it's just to make truckers lives a bit easier because you can always rely on human error.

sytelus 7y ago
B2B logisitcs have fixed routes so one can simplify a lot of things. For example, you can map out all traffic lights, stop signs, turns, lanes precisely and without ambiguity. This can reduce reliance on stochastic predictions by an order of magnitude. Also, fixed routes mean continuous recurring paid high value business.
- ng7j5d9 7y ago
  Not really though, right? I theoretically have the same commute every day, but there have been times when a moving truck has been stopped in my lane, or the period when a road was down to one lane as it was repaved, and then re-opened with a new traffic circle, etc. You can't train your truck how to complete a route today and then assume it'll be able to successfully complete that route everyday as detours, new traffic patterns, accidents, etc, happen.
  - cheriot 7y ago
    Interstates are more consistent than local roads. I'm surprised long haul trucking isn't the first target for these companies. Driving 20 hours straight and pulling up next to a local driver for the last mile would be faster (human drivers are required to sleep) and save a bunch of money.
    - modo_mario 7y ago
      Consistency is key in automation. Other than the cost of automation itself consider the big big costs when those irregularities do exist, the big cost of the systems made to account for and handle those potential failures and the fact that as almost always there's more of those failure points than you expect.

sytelus 7y ago

B2B logisitcs have fixed routes so one can simplify a lot of things. For example, you can map out all traffic lights, stop signs, turns, lanes precisely and without ambiguity. This can reduce reliance on stochastic predictions by an order of magnitude. Also, fixed routes mean continuous recurring paid high value business.

ng7j5d9 7y ago
Not really though, right? I theoretically have the same commute every day, but there have been times when a moving truck has been stopped in my lane, or the period when a road was down to one lane as it was repaved, and then re-opened with a new traffic circle, etc. You can't train your truck how to complete a route today and then assume it'll be able to successfully complete that route everyday as detours, new traffic patterns, accidents, etc, happen.
- cheriot 7y ago
  Interstates are more consistent than local roads. I'm surprised long haul trucking isn't the first target for these companies. Driving 20 hours straight and pulling up next to a local driver for the last mile would be faster (human drivers are required to sleep) and save a bunch of money.
  - modo_mario 7y ago
    Consistency is key in automation. Other than the cost of automation itself consider the big big costs when those irregularities do exist, the big cost of the systems made to account for and handle those potential failures and the fact that as almost always there's more of those failure points than you expect.