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Modern Turkey is indeed built on sound "enlightenment-ideas-based". This doesn't mean it will continue to be so. The current regime works hard to change these p

by mola 7y ago

Modern Turkey is indeed built on sound "enlightenment-ideas-based". This doesn't mean it will continue to be so. The current regime works hard to change these principles. The fact that these principles are challenged in democracies world over should bother us. This is not the same as it ever was, it's a real threat for the liberties and rights humanity managed to bootstrap for it's individuals. We are watching the erosion of them in realtime. It's a slow process that's easy to miss or get used to. But, I believe we should be wary.

YeGoblynQueenne 7y ago
Do the "enlightenment-ideas" on which the modern Turkish nation is based include the necessity of ethnic cleansing of Christian and Greek-speaking populations in Asia Minor, that motivated the genocides of the Pontic and Anatolian Greeks, Assyrians and Armenians, overseen and instigated by the Young Turks? Or does it refer to the continued denial of Turkey that these took place, despite their recognition as acts of genocide by the international community? It's a rhetoric question. There is nothing "enlightened" about modern Turkey: it is a de facto military dictatorship, belligerent and militaristic, that relishes its self-chosen role as the regional bully in the Eastern Mediterrannean and the Near East. It was like this before Erdogan (with Turgut Ozal) and it will be like this after Erdogan, and for a long time still. But perhaps I'm just blinded by prejudice having lived most of my life in Greece, which is right next door to Turkey. Perhaps you -presumably not living so close to Turkey- may have a broader perspective that I am missing. In that case, can you name one time in the last 45 years when Turky has actively promoted peace and stability in the regions it borders? (I'm leaving out 1974, the year of the invasion of Cyprus, to make it easier).

by mola 7y ago

YeGoblynQueenne 7y ago

Do the "enlightenment-ideas" on which the modern Turkish nation is based include the necessity of ethnic cleansing of Christian and Greek-speaking populations in Asia Minor, that motivated the genocides of the Pontic and Anatolian Greeks, Assyrians and Armenians, overseen and instigated by the Young Turks? Or does it refer to the continued denial of Turkey that these took place, despite their recognition as acts of genocide by the international community? It's a rhetoric question. There is nothing "enlightened" about modern Turkey: it is a de facto military dictatorship, belligerent and militaristic, that relishes its self-chosen role as the regional bully in the Eastern Mediterrannean and the Near East. It was like this before Erdogan (with Turgut Ozal) and it will be like this after Erdogan, and for a long time still. But perhaps I'm just blinded by prejudice having lived most of my life in Greece, which is right next door to Turkey. Perhaps you -presumably not living so close to Turkey- may have a broader perspective that I am missing. In that case, can you name one time in the last 45 years when Turky has actively promoted peace and stability in the regions it borders? (I'm leaving out 1974, the year of the invasion of Cyprus, to make it easier).