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without wiki i don't know how i would have solved my problem sets in grad school. let's see how the academic performance improves in turkey.
by mmhsieh 7y ago
without wiki i don't know how i would have solved my problem sets in grad school. let's see how the academic performance improves in turkey.
- MiroF 7y agoif you're smart enough to be in grad school, you're smart enough to have a VPN
- mmhsieh 7y agoyes, but not all countries smile on use of VPNs. i don't know about turkey but in others you can get in some trouble.
- MiroF 7y agothat's assuming they can catch you, which they most likely can't.
- zehemer 7y agoMore like inconvenience than trouble, I would say, as most prominent VPN providers are blocked at IP level.
- mmhsieh 7y agoi am told by expats that you can use VPNs in china to get access to blocked sites; i am also told that the government generally turns a blind eye, especially to foreigners using VPNs. how they deal with chinese users, in terms of social credit score, is something that is opaque. it seems like an inherently "antisocial" activity by the standards of their governance. this is all assuming that with nation state resources they can identify use of VPNs at the user level.
- iso1210 7y agoChina knows it's impossible to stop everyone all the time, they just need to put up enough barriers to make it something you actively have to do, then make sure the culture is such that the majority won't even consider doing it, and if they do manager to see western reports on concentration camps in west china, or tianaman square, they won't spread it to the masses.
- anticensor 7y agoTurkey actually has a GFW equivalent and it is spread across multiple layers.
- eknkc 7y agoAlso there are a lot of mirrors. Easiest I can always remember is 0wikipedia. Just add a 0 before the hostname, no block.
- alimoeeny 7y agoYou assume a vpn service (or even an ssh tunnel) is something a grad student in a third world country can afford? Often this is not the case.
- laughinghan 7y agoThere are free VPNs, although most are probably spyware. If you need one both free of charge and free of malware, btw, you should get Psiphon ( https://psiphon.ca/ https://psiphon.ca/ ), which came out of the Citizen Lab at the University of Toronto.
- SXX 7y agoFree VPNs are not always spyware. Some just going to use your PC as proxy server for someone else instead like Hola / Luminati which is extremely shady, but on other side dont need to spy on you since their commercial customers pay them well for residential proxy servers.
- SXX 7y agoI think you shouldn't use terminology you don't understand: 1. All this "1st / 2nd / 3rd world" is from cold war time and not really relevant anymore. 2. Turkey is NATO member since 1952 so it's would be your first world country. PS: Of course Turkey is not a rich country, but everyone there can certainly afford $3-5 a month for VPN. UPD: s/user/use/
- mengibar10 7y agoVery well said. There are no worse people than those who trash their own country with ludicrous arguments.
- tomashubelbauer 7y agoSounds like there would be worse people than that.
- mmhsieh 7y ago
- SahAssar 7y agoYou seem to think that all knowledge is transferable to or indicative of different areas of knowledge. That's not the case.
- EndXA 7y agoInterestingly, they actually briefly mention something on the topic in the article: > In the time that the block was in effect, we heard from students, teachers, professionals and more in Turkey about how the block had impacted their daily lives. For many students, the block had occurred just days before their final exams.
- markdown 7y ago> For many students, the block had occurred just days before their final exams. So no effect on those students then.
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- mirekrusin 7y agoYes, in theory.
- szatkus 7y agoWhy? That's the period when most learning happens!
- sercand 7y agoUniversities in Turkey have different internet infrastructure network called ULAKBIM (National Academic Network and Information Center). Therefore Wikipedia was never blocked for universities.