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The fact that the title is click bait has nothing to do with your claim that the survey sample is biased. If it's true, prove it. >results a single survey Sa

The fact that the title is click bait has nothing to do with your claim that the survey sample is biased. If it's true, prove it. >results a single survey Says the guy who uses "Ask HN" for help... How many surveys should they do?

wutbrodo 7y ago
> Says the guy who uses "Ask HN" for help... Are you under the impression that anyone is using "Ask HN" to make representative claims about a larger population than "people who answered this thread" (or at best, "people on HN")?
dang 7y ago
Would you please stop posting in the flamewar style, and in particular please drop the personal swipes from your comments here? You've been doing that repeatedly, it's against the rules, and we eventually ban accounts that keep doing it. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- spookthesunset 7y ago
  It isn't flamebait and the dude shouldn't be downvoted--I'd be pissed if I was that guy too. People here love to say worthless crap like "oh, of the people who take surveys, blah blah blah". Not considering the fact that people who give the surveys aren't stupid and factor that into their results. Such garbage is pure pedantry and if anything, you should be going after all the know-it-alls on this forum who love to pick useless fights. Of course the people giving the survey know that there is an inherent bias towards their sample. If they are any good, they correct for it. Stop wasting your time going after this guy, go after the know-it-all parent.
  - dang 7y ago
    I think that's a fair point and have posted https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22161665 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22161665. The issue with the account I was replying to is not that specific comment but a pattern of posting in the flamewar style and, especially, of taking personal swipes. That needs to change. For example, "Says the guy who uses "Ask HN" for help" is not an ok way to argue on HN. Personal attacks are a more existential issue for HN than shallow dismissals are, but the latter are also a big problem, which is why there's a site guideline against those too.

wutbrodo 7y ago

> Says the guy who uses "Ask HN" for help... Are you under the impression that anyone is using "Ask HN" to make representative claims about a larger population than "people who answered this thread" (or at best, "people on HN")?

dang 7y ago

Would you please stop posting in the flamewar style, and in particular please drop the personal swipes from your comments here? You've been doing that repeatedly, it's against the rules, and we eventually ban accounts that keep doing it. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

spookthesunset 7y ago
It isn't flamebait and the dude shouldn't be downvoted--I'd be pissed if I was that guy too. People here love to say worthless crap like "oh, of the people who take surveys, blah blah blah". Not considering the fact that people who give the surveys aren't stupid and factor that into their results. Such garbage is pure pedantry and if anything, you should be going after all the know-it-alls on this forum who love to pick useless fights. Of course the people giving the survey know that there is an inherent bias towards their sample. If they are any good, they correct for it. Stop wasting your time going after this guy, go after the know-it-all parent.
- dang 7y ago
  I think that's a fair point and have posted https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22161665 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22161665. The issue with the account I was replying to is not that specific comment but a pattern of posting in the flamewar style and, especially, of taking personal swipes. That needs to change. For example, "Says the guy who uses "Ask HN" for help" is not an ok way to argue on HN. Personal attacks are a more existential issue for HN than shallow dismissals are, but the latter are also a big problem, which is why there's a site guideline against those too.