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That's low, but I'm curious as to how much was paid in total to the record company. Also, I wonder what artists think is fair to pay for a stream of a song?

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__s 7y ago
> "According to industry analyst Michael DeGusta, Pharrell would likely have earned approximately $25,000 from the 43 million plays," Wile says. 2500000 / 43000000 = 0.0581395348837209 cents/play, or 1$ per 1720 plays Unfortunately these articles never estimate the effective income per play for these services. Also the 1720 figure doesn't account for other people's cut outside of Pandora
eesmith 7y ago
> Regarding the specific songs he mentions in his letter, Pandora paid all rights holders more than $150,000 in just three months, substantially more than the $6,100 he suggests. > The issue is not whether Pandora pays enough in royalties. The real issue is the financial dispute between labels and publishers about how to divide Pandora's industry-leading royalties.
- anderber 7y ago
  Good catch, really the title of the article should be "Artist made only <$> from <Record Company> for 43M plays".
egypturnash 7y ago
“"Happy" made $2,700 in publisher and songwriter royalties from 43 million Pandora streams in the first quarter of 2014, according to an email from music publisher Sony/ATV CEO Marty Bandier” -paragraph 2, italics mine; that’s $2700 to the publisher, who then gave some part of that to the artist. But then paragraphs 4/5 say that “Fusion's Rob Wile points out that these numbers aren't all inclusive and don't include performance rights royalty rates, so Pharrell likely earned [...] approximately $25,000 from the 43 million plays” And later on Pandora says that “Pandora paid all rights holders more than $150,000 in just three months [for “Happy” and anywhere from one to a half dozen other songs mentioned in the Sony CEO’s email, there is a lot of ambiguity here IMHO], substantially more than the $6,100 he suggests.” There’s a pretty wide disparity in the numbers they are throwing around; if I am reading this all correctly then it seems that Sony may be saying “Sony and Pharrel got a few thousand bucks of royalties due to him as the composer of Happy” while ignoring that he also got about $150k of estimated royalties due to him as the performer of this specific recording of “Happy”, with an unspecified sum on top of that going to Sony and maybe various other people involved in arranging and producing the track. Music royalties are really complicated.

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__s 7y ago

> "According to industry analyst Michael DeGusta, Pharrell would likely have earned approximately $25,000 from the 43 million plays," Wile says. 2500000 / 43000000 = 0.0581395348837209 cents/play, or 1$ per 1720 plays Unfortunately these articles never estimate the effective income per play for these services. Also the 1720 figure doesn't account for other people's cut outside of Pandora

eesmith 7y ago

> Regarding the specific songs he mentions in his letter, Pandora paid all rights holders more than $150,000 in just three months, substantially more than the $6,100 he suggests. > The issue is not whether Pandora pays enough in royalties. The real issue is the financial dispute between labels and publishers about how to divide Pandora's industry-leading royalties.

anderber 7y ago
Good catch, really the title of the article should be "Artist made only <$> from <Record Company> for 43M plays".

egypturnash 7y ago

“"Happy" made $2,700 in publisher and songwriter royalties from 43 million Pandora streams in the first quarter of 2014, according to an email from music publisher Sony/ATV CEO Marty Bandier” -paragraph 2, italics mine; that’s $2700 to the publisher, who then gave some part of that to the artist. But then paragraphs 4/5 say that “Fusion's Rob Wile points out that these numbers aren't all inclusive and don't include performance rights royalty rates, so Pharrell likely earned [...] approximately $25,000 from the 43 million plays” And later on Pandora says that “Pandora paid all rights holders more than $150,000 in just three months [for “Happy” and anywhere from one to a half dozen other songs mentioned in the Sony CEO’s email, there is a lot of ambiguity here IMHO], substantially more than the $6,100 he suggests.” There’s a pretty wide disparity in the numbers they are throwing around; if I am reading this all correctly then it seems that Sony may be saying “Sony and Pharrel got a few thousand bucks of royalties due to him as the composer of Happy” while ignoring that he also got about $150k of estimated royalties due to him as the performer of this specific recording of “Happy”, with an unspecified sum on top of that going to Sony and maybe various other people involved in arranging and producing the track. Music royalties are really complicated.