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> I can’t buy the Venezuela excuse, surely the ACTO gtld experts are not the same people who deal with Venezuela. It was the foreign minister of Brazil who can

> I can’t buy the Venezuela excuse, surely the ACTO gtld experts are not the same people who deal with Venezuela. It was the foreign minister of Brazil who canceled the meeting, citing the tensions with Venezuela as the reason for cancelation. [0] [0] https://veja.abril.com.br/blog/radar/chanceler-cancela-reuniao-ceo-por-presenca-de-autoridades-venezuelanas/ https://veja.abril.com.br/blog/radar/chanceler-cancela-reuni...

celeritascelery 7y ago
Send in an underling then.
- rumanator 7y ago
  Tensions don't change if you send the 2nd or 3rd in command instead of the foreign minister.
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- ryanlol 7y ago
  The problem wasn’t that the FM was busy with more important stuff, it was that Brazil didn’t want to participate in negotiations where Venezuela was a party. But they also couldn’t be bothered to inform the other participants about this fact until it was way too late...
ryanlol 7y ago
So uh, the problem was that they didn’t want to participate in the negotiations because Venezuela is also a party in the ACTO? This seems to solidly prove that they never gave a shit about the gTLD. Waiting for the ICANN CEO to fly over there before announcing this was just a fundamentally shitty move, it’s not like the tensions with Venezuela were a brand new thing. These people are clearly just assholes.
- rmsaksida 7y ago
  > This seems to solidly prove that they never gave a shit about the gTLD. That doesn't make any sense. ACTO disputed .amazon's proposal as soon as it was made available, in 2012. It's been 7 years, circumstances and governments have changed. At the time there were no tensions with Venezuela, in 2019 there were tensions. How does that prove anything about the gTLD?
  - ryanlol 7y ago
    > How does that prove anything about the gTLD? It’s a shitty, childish excuse for the refusal to participate in the process. Internal disputes within the ACTO were enough for them to drop the whole thing, if they cared they could’ve proceeded despite the fact that Venezuela is a member of the ACTO.

celeritascelery 7y ago

Send in an underling then.

rumanator 7y ago
Tensions don't change if you send the 2nd or 3rd in command instead of the foreign minister.
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ryanlol 7y ago
The problem wasn’t that the FM was busy with more important stuff, it was that Brazil didn’t want to participate in negotiations where Venezuela was a party. But they also couldn’t be bothered to inform the other participants about this fact until it was way too late...

ryanlol 7y ago

So uh, the problem was that they didn’t want to participate in the negotiations because Venezuela is also a party in the ACTO? This seems to solidly prove that they never gave a shit about the gTLD. Waiting for the ICANN CEO to fly over there before announcing this was just a fundamentally shitty move, it’s not like the tensions with Venezuela were a brand new thing. These people are clearly just assholes.

rmsaksida 7y ago
> This seems to solidly prove that they never gave a shit about the gTLD. That doesn't make any sense. ACTO disputed .amazon's proposal as soon as it was made available, in 2012. It's been 7 years, circumstances and governments have changed. At the time there were no tensions with Venezuela, in 2019 there were tensions. How does that prove anything about the gTLD?
- ryanlol 7y ago
  > How does that prove anything about the gTLD? It’s a shitty, childish excuse for the refusal to participate in the process. Internal disputes within the ACTO were enough for them to drop the whole thing, if they cared they could’ve proceeded despite the fact that Venezuela is a member of the ACTO.