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This is stupid. These countries have no right to this TLD just because the forest of that name is located there. If they had wanted it they should have applie

This is stupid. These countries have no right to this TLD just because the forest of that name is located there. If they had wanted it they should have applied for it first. It is equally as stupid as saying that Jeff Bezos can't use the name "Amazon" because it is owned by the owners of the Amazon rainforest, or saying that Brazil can't name its rainforest "Amazon" because that is a Greek mythological term and, therefore, owned by Greece. Nobody owns the word "Amazon"

StavrosK 7y ago
Greek here, you can expect our lawsuit papers shortly.
- petre 7y ago
  If the Greek started suing everyone over words and won, Greece would be a very wealthy nation, moneywise.
  - wbl 7y ago
    Or we would speak as our forefathers have, of stuffkenning and farbkenning and amberkenning. Unclefts and flytrains, not the other words in our wordheap.
  - StavrosK 7y ago
    We prefer to release our words under a CC-BY license.
noja 7y ago
> Nobody owns There's the problem. The name exists, so somebody owns it. Who has more right to it? The countries with a big river with that name running through it, or the ecommerce startup from really not that long ago?
- cbg0 7y ago
  Apparently, the answer is the highest bidder.
  - binarray2000 7y ago
    Yay... let's put a price tag on everything! Let "the market" decide. What could we also sell... let's see: Air, water, children... the highest (richest?) bidder decides. Especially if he got rich by exploiting workers (through low wages and bad working conditions, like wearing diapers) and exploiting state regulations (through tax evasion).
    - fastball 7y ago
      We do sell air and water, and there is nothing wrong with that.
      - xg15 7y ago
        Where do we sell air? Access to clean, drinkable water is a human right, btw.
  - ryanlol 7y ago
    Wouldn’t it also be the only bidder in this case? Nobody else ever made an application for the .amazon gtld.
- travisoneill1 7y ago
  That is a ridiculous statement. My first name is Travis. I am not the owner of https://travis.io/ https://travis.io/ but somehow we coexist. That's because even though the name clearly exists, no one owns it. But this guy owns the domain because he registered it first. By your logic this would come down to who the oldest person with the name is. It sounds stupid in this context because it is. There is no principal here, just a money grab by some South American countries who had no interest in the domain until someone rich registered it. If it was a matter of principal they would have objected when Bezos registered amazon.com, but he wasn't a billionaire then, so they didn't care.
axlee 7y ago
> Nobody owns the word "Amazon" Good luck calling your next venture Amazon then. What this shows is that Amazon now effectively owns the word Amazon, stripping countries where the largest river in the world flows, of the rightful use of the term.
- meddlepal 7y ago
  I'm also guessing those countries don't speak English and "Amazon" is localized as something else.
- commandersaki 7y ago
  I'm sure Amazon the company protects its trademark well.
- travisoneill1 7y ago
  Wouldn't need good luck. Do a search for "Amazon" here and you will see why not: https://icis.corp.delaware.gov/Ecorp/EntitySearch/NameSearch.aspx https://icis.corp.delaware.gov/Ecorp/EntitySearch/NameSearch...
  - Doctor_Fegg 7y ago
    I'm not sure why you think global naming rights issue forth from the second smallest state in the United States of America.
    - fastball 7y ago
      ?? The point of the GP is that there are many companies called "Amazon" or some variation thereof, registered in Delaware alone. Clearly AMZN does not own the word "Amazon".
- Mountain_Skies 7y ago
  It's a bit disturbing that all major search engines show results for the company Apple before the fruit apple. Not even talking about ads. A search for "apple" comes up with a tech company, not the food. Seems a bit perverse especially for searches performed by those too young to have known a time when apple the fruit had a stronger association with the name than Apple the corporation.
rootlocus 7y ago
> This is stupid. These countries have no right to this TLD just because the forest of that name is located there. But it's not stupid that individuals who've thrived economically beyond reason can now own almost anything and we keep making excuses to allow them to?
__m 7y ago
well their claim is better than that of a company
9HZZRfNlpR 7y ago
If no one owns it then scrap the trademarks worldwide before the decision. Companies have insane amount of power over words.

StavrosK 7y ago

Greek here, you can expect our lawsuit papers shortly.

petre 7y ago
If the Greek started suing everyone over words and won, Greece would be a very wealthy nation, moneywise.
- wbl 7y ago
  Or we would speak as our forefathers have, of stuffkenning and farbkenning and amberkenning. Unclefts and flytrains, not the other words in our wordheap.
- StavrosK 7y ago
  We prefer to release our words under a CC-BY license.

noja 7y ago

> Nobody owns There's the problem. The name exists, so somebody owns it. Who has more right to it? The countries with a big river with that name running through it, or the ecommerce startup from really not that long ago?

cbg0 7y ago
Apparently, the answer is the highest bidder.
- binarray2000 7y ago
  Yay... let's put a price tag on everything! Let "the market" decide. What could we also sell... let's see: Air, water, children... the highest (richest?) bidder decides. Especially if he got rich by exploiting workers (through low wages and bad working conditions, like wearing diapers) and exploiting state regulations (through tax evasion).
  - fastball 7y ago
    We do sell air and water, and there is nothing wrong with that.
    - xg15 7y ago
      Where do we sell air? Access to clean, drinkable water is a human right, btw.
- ryanlol 7y ago
  Wouldn’t it also be the only bidder in this case? Nobody else ever made an application for the .amazon gtld.
travisoneill1 7y ago
That is a ridiculous statement. My first name is Travis. I am not the owner of https://travis.io/ https://travis.io/ but somehow we coexist. That's because even though the name clearly exists, no one owns it. But this guy owns the domain because he registered it first. By your logic this would come down to who the oldest person with the name is. It sounds stupid in this context because it is. There is no principal here, just a money grab by some South American countries who had no interest in the domain until someone rich registered it. If it was a matter of principal they would have objected when Bezos registered amazon.com, but he wasn't a billionaire then, so they didn't care.

axlee 7y ago

> Nobody owns the word "Amazon" Good luck calling your next venture Amazon then. What this shows is that Amazon now effectively owns the word Amazon, stripping countries where the largest river in the world flows, of the rightful use of the term.

meddlepal 7y ago
I'm also guessing those countries don't speak English and "Amazon" is localized as something else.
commandersaki 7y ago
I'm sure Amazon the company protects its trademark well.
travisoneill1 7y ago
Wouldn't need good luck. Do a search for "Amazon" here and you will see why not: https://icis.corp.delaware.gov/Ecorp/EntitySearch/NameSearch.aspx https://icis.corp.delaware.gov/Ecorp/EntitySearch/NameSearch...
- Doctor_Fegg 7y ago
  I'm not sure why you think global naming rights issue forth from the second smallest state in the United States of America.
  - fastball 7y ago
    ?? The point of the GP is that there are many companies called "Amazon" or some variation thereof, registered in Delaware alone. Clearly AMZN does not own the word "Amazon".
Mountain_Skies 7y ago
It's a bit disturbing that all major search engines show results for the company Apple before the fruit apple. Not even talking about ads. A search for "apple" comes up with a tech company, not the food. Seems a bit perverse especially for searches performed by those too young to have known a time when apple the fruit had a stronger association with the name than Apple the corporation.

rootlocus 7y ago

> This is stupid. These countries have no right to this TLD just because the forest of that name is located there. But it's not stupid that individuals who've thrived economically beyond reason can now own almost anything and we keep making excuses to allow them to?

__m 7y ago

well their claim is better than that of a company

9HZZRfNlpR 7y ago

If no one owns it then scrap the trademarks worldwide before the decision. Companies have insane amount of power over words.