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If we're making this a little bit of a surface line conversation: I'm absolutely amazed at how bad the latest Microsoft Surface Pro 7 is. I bought it for OneNot
by angleofrepose 7y ago
If we're making this a little bit of a surface line conversation: I'm absolutely amazed at how bad the latest Microsoft Surface Pro 7 is. I bought it for OneNote and as a second computer to my main laptop.
The pen regularly is not recognized, the entire computer freezes for 2 seconds when rotating including stuttering video and audio. The entire computer freezes for 1s when opening the keyboard which happens for me two or three times every five minutes of active work in OneNote. I've done about 20 hours of work in OneNote now and couldn't recommend it to anyone for any workflow, not formal design work, not annotating PDFs, not drawing, not storyboarding or wireframing or writing by hand. I only keep using it hoping I'll stop hitting it's fail cases by learning it all and that has yet to happen. I plan to try out the iPad next week. Any other recommendations for a thinking workspace with digital pen?
I have a list of 10-15 OneNote peculiarities that seem insane to have made it into production, and that OneNote is almost unusably laggy on Microsoft's latest device is wild to me. They center around the virtual keyboard and non-ink object selection and manipulation, of which there are zero official Microsoft tutorials or manuals. There is no way in OneNote on the surface to "exit" an action, selection or keyboard. Any tap will open the keyboard, cycling the 2x 1s freeze for opening and closing the keyboard. It's maddening.
- DenisM 7y agoOneNote on the iPad Pro is great, just go for it. Make sure to get the matte screen protector for the tablet for additional pen-to-surface friction.
- angleofrepose 7y agoI think I'll give that a shot. I'm just greatly disappointed with OneNote's organizational features. In that they don't exist. I have notebooks > sections > pages but nothing within pages. No portals, no tools in place (leaving a pen or two in the canvas where I'm switching often). In portrait mode it takes me 3 taps to get from highlighter to pen when I'm reading papers. The PDF import as a stack is almost useless for anything larger than 30 pages. I could go on for a while. I want to try a formal design application and maybe I can make use of layers to save on the "miles" of scrolling I do in OneNote.
- ss3000 7y agoI have both a Surface Go and an iPad Pro, and while using the pen on the iPad Pro on its own offers a satisfactory experience, I find that it's not nearly as good as the Surface Go when it comes to accurately recognizing the correct input method when quickly switching between pen and touch inputs. My iPad Pro very often would treat my finger as a stylus and start drawing when I meant to use my fingers to scroll around, while on my Surface Go I honestly can't even recall that happening even once, and it's a night and day difference in terms of ergonomics for me. I think Microsoft's much longer experience in handling hybrid pen & touch input in OneNote for Windows still gives it an edge at the moment.
- DenisM 7y agoThat literally never happened to me, not even once. I vaguely recall there’s a setting in one note to never accept touch as pen input, so all touches are navigation and all pencil input is drawing. Give it a try?
- goatherders 7y agoInteresting. I received an SP7 for christmas from my wife after I made one too many comments about the crummy battery on my XPS 13. I didnt expect to like it as much as I do. Your issues with 1N are not thinks I encounter regularly myself but for my use it's an amazing machine.