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Ah, the what.cd strategy. Minus the exclusive content.

sondr3 7y ago
Man, I miss what.cd, not just for the content but for the obsessive users they had and the collections they made. Want all albums with a shoe as the cover? They have a collection for that. Want good music to start a journey into classical music in the 1800s? They have a collection for that. I mostly used it to discover great music, and the void that what.cd left has yet to be filled for me.
- Jaygles 7y ago
  I don't think I'm ever going to get over what.cd getting taken down. After it disappeared my new music discovery has plummeted.
  - rowathray 7y ago
    Ever heard of Apple Music? Spotify? Youtube?
    - NoahTheDuke 7y ago
      Laughable to compare the obsessive curation of music on what.cd with any of those platforms, not to mention the fidelity and the vast range, far exceeding what’s available on the other platforms.
      - rowathray 7y ago
        If your "music discovery plummeted" after an illegal copyright infringer was taken down a decade ago, I seriously question your commitment to music. In the years that went by since what.cd, you never found new ways to discover music? Oh kay. More like you just liked stealing from creative professionals.
        pirateyarr 7y ago
        >you never found new ways to discover music? Yes. But they are nowhere close to the ways you could discover with it. Spotify's playlists doesn't even compare. >Oh kay. More like you just liked stealing from creative professionals. Ofc. In fact, there are studies that show that piracy helps the industry. And I bet the biggest winners are the creators themselves, as they are the ones that profit the most from exposure. Musicians get more more from concerts than albuns sales.
      - HeWhoLurksLate 7y ago
        @rowathray It's not so much because of the pirating that this service was successful, it's because of the dedicated userbase it held. If something like what.cd integrated with something like Spotify- a legitimate way of accessing lots of music- say "here's a button to stream" somewhere on the site, it would probably be successful. Mind you, one of the other reasons that these sorts of things with torrent or whatever backends get so popular is because there isn't a particular gatekeeper that can decide what can and can't be on the platform [1.] Destroying and damaging the effort of people who help your platform on their spare time tends to garner ill will. [1] Spotify removing R. Kelly and XXXTentacion from their service: https://www.billboard.com/articles/business/8455549/new-spotify-hate-content-policy-music-business-reaction https://www.billboard.com/articles/business/8455549/new-spot...
        rowathray 7y ago
        Wait, so you endorsing a site that not only engaged in large scale piracy, but also allowed hateful content with no oversight? Wow.
        Carpetsmoker 7y ago
        I would pay for what.cd. In fact, I did pay. I think I donated about €200 at some point. The entire experience of what.cd was just amazing, and services like Spotify are lacking a lot. The situation is better than a few years ago, but still very far from perfect.
  - armitron 7y ago
    You can join one of the successor trackers. Though, I expect them to be taken down in turn when they become more well-known. The centralized private tracker model has a fatal flaw in that it's too easy to take down and all the work/hours people put in in curating and creating metadata ultimately wasted. There are alternative models where the metadata is distributed but so far nothing has really caught on.
- xenihn 7y ago
  There's a site that is basically oink 3. Don't forget that what itself was a successor of oink. Not sure if it's against the rules to name it. It seems much harder to get an invite to it than it was for the previous 2 though.
  - Carpetsmoker 7y ago
    I tried to get an invite for one of them using the "IRC interview", and I was berated for not having "studied enough" because I didn't know the detail of some pedantic rule (I think it was about some detail on which format trumps which) and I explained something else in slightly different words. The entire thing was super-pedantic and super-silly, and a massive turn-off for that community (I didn't try again). As far as I'm concerned there is no good alternative to what.cd.
  - armitron 7y ago
    There are at least 3 sites that are continuations of oink/what.cd. Two of them are good, one is improving..
    - ta999999171 7y ago
      Are you a member? ...hook me up? =]
  - ta999999171 7y ago
    Are you a member? ...hook me up? =]

Man, I miss what.cd, not just for the content but for the obsessive users they had and the collections they made. Want all albums with a shoe as the cover? They have a collection for that. Want good music to start a journey into classical music in the 1800s? They have a collection for that. I mostly used it to discover great music, and the void that what.cd left has yet to be filled for me.

Jaygles 7y ago
I don't think I'm ever going to get over what.cd getting taken down. After it disappeared my new music discovery has plummeted.
- rowathray 7y ago
  Ever heard of Apple Music? Spotify? Youtube?
  - NoahTheDuke 7y ago
    Laughable to compare the obsessive curation of music on what.cd with any of those platforms, not to mention the fidelity and the vast range, far exceeding what’s available on the other platforms.
    - rowathray 7y ago
      If your "music discovery plummeted" after an illegal copyright infringer was taken down a decade ago, I seriously question your commitment to music. In the years that went by since what.cd, you never found new ways to discover music? Oh kay. More like you just liked stealing from creative professionals.
      - pirateyarr 7y ago
        >you never found new ways to discover music? Yes. But they are nowhere close to the ways you could discover with it. Spotify's playlists doesn't even compare. >Oh kay. More like you just liked stealing from creative professionals. Ofc. In fact, there are studies that show that piracy helps the industry. And I bet the biggest winners are the creators themselves, as they are the ones that profit the most from exposure. Musicians get more more from concerts than albuns sales.
    - HeWhoLurksLate 7y ago
      @rowathray It's not so much because of the pirating that this service was successful, it's because of the dedicated userbase it held. If something like what.cd integrated with something like Spotify- a legitimate way of accessing lots of music- say "here's a button to stream" somewhere on the site, it would probably be successful. Mind you, one of the other reasons that these sorts of things with torrent or whatever backends get so popular is because there isn't a particular gatekeeper that can decide what can and can't be on the platform [1.] Destroying and damaging the effort of people who help your platform on their spare time tends to garner ill will. [1] Spotify removing R. Kelly and XXXTentacion from their service: https://www.billboard.com/articles/business/8455549/new-spotify-hate-content-policy-music-business-reaction https://www.billboard.com/articles/business/8455549/new-spot...
      - rowathray 7y ago
        Wait, so you endorsing a site that not only engaged in large scale piracy, but also allowed hateful content with no oversight? Wow.
      - Carpetsmoker 7y ago
        I would pay for what.cd. In fact, I did pay. I think I donated about €200 at some point. The entire experience of what.cd was just amazing, and services like Spotify are lacking a lot. The situation is better than a few years ago, but still very far from perfect.
- armitron 7y ago
  You can join one of the successor trackers. Though, I expect them to be taken down in turn when they become more well-known. The centralized private tracker model has a fatal flaw in that it's too easy to take down and all the work/hours people put in in curating and creating metadata ultimately wasted. There are alternative models where the metadata is distributed but so far nothing has really caught on.
xenihn 7y ago
There's a site that is basically oink 3. Don't forget that what itself was a successor of oink. Not sure if it's against the rules to name it. It seems much harder to get an invite to it than it was for the previous 2 though.
- Carpetsmoker 7y ago
  I tried to get an invite for one of them using the "IRC interview", and I was berated for not having "studied enough" because I didn't know the detail of some pedantic rule (I think it was about some detail on which format trumps which) and I explained something else in slightly different words. The entire thing was super-pedantic and super-silly, and a massive turn-off for that community (I didn't try again). As far as I'm concerned there is no good alternative to what.cd.
- armitron 7y ago
  There are at least 3 sites that are continuations of oink/what.cd. Two of them are good, one is improving..
  - ta999999171 7y ago
    Are you a member? ...hook me up? =]
- ta999999171 7y ago
  Are you a member? ...hook me up? =]