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There's still commercial products that will track your wifi/bluetooth MAC, and probably ISMI as well. You're not preventing this sort of thing with that sort of

There's still commercial products that will track your wifi/bluetooth MAC, and probably ISMI as well. You're not preventing this sort of thing with that sort of behavior and just making things awkward for yourself. If I can find the home addresses of people walking past my house using reverse lookups of ESSID probes, you can be damn sure that everybody else is doing it too.

Teever 7y ago
> If I can find the home addresses of people walking past my house using reverse lookups of ESSID probes Can you tell me more about this?
- RL_Quine 7y ago
  When your device is trying to find networks its seen previously, it for some reason broadcasts the ESSID, the human readable name of the networks it knows about. A lot of these are globally unique, as many routers come with a default name which is based on their MAC address. You walk past my house, I see you have connected to direct-roku-845-7e16d8. Great! I can go do a reverse lookup of that (say, based on information collected by SkyHooks or WiGLE), and I now know that you've at least authenticated to a network in downtown SF one time. With a good sampling of these (many pieces of software send the last 4+ networks), I can get an idea of where you live, where you work, and where you've traveled. From your device details I can tell what brand of device you have, from the times of day I see you I can work out what your patterns and behaviors are, from your bluetooth connections I can get an idea of what sort of devices you own. I can even match this with real time video and directional antennas to match this with a picture of your face. This is all things that an individual can do right now with off the shelf software, not something you need to be a company or a government agency to pull off. This is absolutely receive only, and does not interact with anybodies devices in any way. It is not illegal and you can not detect that someone is doing this sort of attack. Your only defense against this is to have as bland and as generic of a wifi point name as possible.

Teever 7y ago

> If I can find the home addresses of people walking past my house using reverse lookups of ESSID probes Can you tell me more about this?

RL_Quine 7y ago
When your device is trying to find networks its seen previously, it for some reason broadcasts the ESSID, the human readable name of the networks it knows about. A lot of these are globally unique, as many routers come with a default name which is based on their MAC address. You walk past my house, I see you have connected to direct-roku-845-7e16d8. Great! I can go do a reverse lookup of that (say, based on information collected by SkyHooks or WiGLE), and I now know that you've at least authenticated to a network in downtown SF one time. With a good sampling of these (many pieces of software send the last 4+ networks), I can get an idea of where you live, where you work, and where you've traveled. From your device details I can tell what brand of device you have, from the times of day I see you I can work out what your patterns and behaviors are, from your bluetooth connections I can get an idea of what sort of devices you own. I can even match this with real time video and directional antennas to match this with a picture of your face. This is all things that an individual can do right now with off the shelf software, not something you need to be a company or a government agency to pull off. This is absolutely receive only, and does not interact with anybodies devices in any way. It is not illegal and you can not detect that someone is doing this sort of attack. Your only defense against this is to have as bland and as generic of a wifi point name as possible.