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Thoughts on Physical Social Networking (hello my name is E)

2 points by PStamatiou 18y ago

PStamatiou 18y ago
I posted this here to ask - can a hardware-aided web app really take off? Seems like it's just a limitation, regardless of application. Imagine if your OpenID account asked you for a 6-digit RSA key token everytime you logged in? Okay I take that back, that'd be pretty neat.
cbryan 18y ago
I think it could work, but I think it would have to marketed differently. Right now it seems aimed towards the twenty-something web developer who might be more casual. I think there's an equally large opening for a device like this marketed towards more traditional businessmen. Replace the Rolodex, make migrating to social networking apps easier, etc. The device is certainly a limitation too. Maybe think about ways it could be implemented as a mobile phone app? The hardware infrastructure for mobile apps already exists, and people are already comfortable with it. Bluetooth would be nice, but I don't know how easy it is to leverage that sort of technology.
- PStamatiou 18y ago
  I had the same thoughts about mobile phone app implementation but there would no doubt be some large issues to overcome. Not all phones can have apps, etc, not everyone has bluetooth..
  - seiji 18y ago
    Phone apps have a few problems: * How many models and manufacturers and OS revisions for phones are there? Do you have time to create and support 80 versions of your application? * No phone can communicate peer-to-peer, so you are reliant on the carrier network or if you are lucky, 802.11abgn access. * Phones are locked down. Even the glorious iPhone has a direct reference forbidding peer-to-peer applications in the developer docs. * Even if all of the above was feasible, extremely few people would install your application on their phone. Sorry. All the above hassle leads to companies such as Brightkite saying "screw it, we're going to use SMS and webpages to be dodgeball++"
seiji 18y ago
We're doing almost the same thing (except better). We considered going with a no-screen-sync-at-your-computer model, but it's not useful for very much. The version we came up with enables arbitrary direct peer-to-peer communication within a few hundred feet (or larger distances with our mesh routing). We gave it a handheld form-factor with its own screen and network connectivity too. We're working on driving the price down and making it as small as possible but still usable.
- PStamatiou 18y ago
  do you have a company name that's public?
  - seiji 18y ago
    We are genetic gestures, inc (as is in my profile). Looks like I should get around to updating the website with details of our upcoming product.
richesh 18y ago
There was a company back in the 1st boom that was making apparels and other gear with your "ID" printed on it boldly. And you could take someone's ID and put it on the site and communicate with that person. Seemed like a roundabout way of just walking up to the person and saying "hello my name is E". But to answer your question, a hardware-aided webapp could take off if it was backed by the right "webapp". If facebook, linkedIn, Match, etc. came out with a hardware (although why wouldn't you just write an iPhone app nowadays), that facilitated physical social networking then it might work. Although IMO, people still like to keep a difference between their online and offline lives. We are going to see a large numbers of mobile social networking companies in the next few years. It is the only logical next step for social networks, to go from in front of computers to location aware.

2 points by PStamatiou 18y ago

I posted this here to ask - can a hardware-aided web app really take off? Seems like it's just a limitation, regardless of application. Imagine if your OpenID account asked you for a 6-digit RSA key token everytime you logged in? Okay I take that back, that'd be pretty neat.

cbryan 18y ago

I think it could work, but I think it would have to marketed differently. Right now it seems aimed towards the twenty-something web developer who might be more casual. I think there's an equally large opening for a device like this marketed towards more traditional businessmen. Replace the Rolodex, make migrating to social networking apps easier, etc. The device is certainly a limitation too. Maybe think about ways it could be implemented as a mobile phone app? The hardware infrastructure for mobile apps already exists, and people are already comfortable with it. Bluetooth would be nice, but I don't know how easy it is to leverage that sort of technology.

PStamatiou 18y ago
I had the same thoughts about mobile phone app implementation but there would no doubt be some large issues to overcome. Not all phones can have apps, etc, not everyone has bluetooth..
- seiji 18y ago
  Phone apps have a few problems: * How many models and manufacturers and OS revisions for phones are there? Do you have time to create and support 80 versions of your application? * No phone can communicate peer-to-peer, so you are reliant on the carrier network or if you are lucky, 802.11abgn access. * Phones are locked down. Even the glorious iPhone has a direct reference forbidding peer-to-peer applications in the developer docs. * Even if all of the above was feasible, extremely few people would install your application on their phone. Sorry. All the above hassle leads to companies such as Brightkite saying "screw it, we're going to use SMS and webpages to be dodgeball++"

seiji 18y ago

We're doing almost the same thing (except better). We considered going with a no-screen-sync-at-your-computer model, but it's not useful for very much. The version we came up with enables arbitrary direct peer-to-peer communication within a few hundred feet (or larger distances with our mesh routing). We gave it a handheld form-factor with its own screen and network connectivity too. We're working on driving the price down and making it as small as possible but still usable.

PStamatiou 18y ago
do you have a company name that's public?
- seiji 18y ago
  We are genetic gestures, inc (as is in my profile). Looks like I should get around to updating the website with details of our upcoming product.

richesh 18y ago

There was a company back in the 1st boom that was making apparels and other gear with your "ID" printed on it boldly. And you could take someone's ID and put it on the site and communicate with that person. Seemed like a roundabout way of just walking up to the person and saying "hello my name is E". But to answer your question, a hardware-aided webapp could take off if it was backed by the right "webapp". If facebook, linkedIn, Match, etc. came out with a hardware (although why wouldn't you just write an iPhone app nowadays), that facilitated physical social networking then it might work. Although IMO, people still like to keep a difference between their online and offline lives. We are going to see a large numbers of mobile social networking companies in the next few years. It is the only logical next step for social networks, to go from in front of computers to location aware.