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Could it be that longer books are almost a natural spaced repetition system for ingesting content? While I agree many 300-page books can be compressed into 10-

Could it be that longer books are almost a natural spaced repetition system for ingesting content? While I agree many 300-page books can be compressed into 10-20 pages of high density summary, I can't help but wonder if the length of a book almost ensures we spend a minimum length of time playing with/thinking about/considering the idea being presented. And that for certain books, the typical time it would take to read through 10-20 pages wouldn't be enough to really let the ideas sink in. In other words, when I take a 300-page book (or a 10-hour audiobook) and spread it out over 7 or so days, I'm going to spend a lot more time thinking about it (each reading/listening session + some length of time after each session) compared with if I read a highly-condensed blog post and was done with it. Unless I took the initiative and made flash cards or something to review it later on - which I am not in a habit of doing.

Psyladine 7y ago
>Could it be that longer books are almost a natural spaced repetition system for ingesting content? I might buy the 'fiber' argument as it were, if it weren't for literature's existing power to convey in compact form already. Aesop seems miles ahead of the modern self-help crowd here; if anything, there's something about couching information in metaphor that makes it particularly satisfying to digest, which is why we can teach children about boys who cry wolf with more efficacy than simply preaching honesty - which children put to more credible use in examining their teachers' hypocrisy.
- jborichevskiy 7y ago
  I do like your fiber analogy. I wholeheartedly agree metaphors are a multiplier to information transfer, but I can't say I've seen a deep dive into the psychology of why beyond simple literature class reasons. My guess is when given a metaphor our brains just don't have to do as much work to frame the concept and understand it, and retention is better as it's condensed.
lsinger 7y ago
It’s a relatively known piece of “wisdom” from storytelling: “The more specific we are, the more universal something can become. Life is in the details. If you generalize, it doesn't resonate. The specificity of it is what resonates.” [https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/jacqueline_woodson_882873 https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/jacqueline_woodson_882873] You can repeat a generalization over and over again. It sounds right — but it doesn’t stick. You can’t translate it into your own practice. You learn the words, but not the intuition. Telling concrete stories helps us learn the intuition, too.
- Lindenmayer 7y ago
  This really reminds me of the concept of elaborative encoding whereas we learn by connecting facts with preexisting knowledge [0]. Abstract things do not stick because we have less touch points to connect them with. The Baker Baker paradox for instance describes the fact that we are much more likely to remember that a person is a baker than the more abstract fact that his name is Baker [1]. [0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elaborative_encoding https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elaborative_encoding [1] https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/mental-mishaps/201002/large-mocha-without-name https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/mental-mishaps/20100...

Psyladine 7y ago

>Could it be that longer books are almost a natural spaced repetition system for ingesting content? I might buy the 'fiber' argument as it were, if it weren't for literature's existing power to convey in compact form already. Aesop seems miles ahead of the modern self-help crowd here; if anything, there's something about couching information in metaphor that makes it particularly satisfying to digest, which is why we can teach children about boys who cry wolf with more efficacy than simply preaching honesty - which children put to more credible use in examining their teachers' hypocrisy.

jborichevskiy 7y ago
I do like your fiber analogy. I wholeheartedly agree metaphors are a multiplier to information transfer, but I can't say I've seen a deep dive into the psychology of why beyond simple literature class reasons. My guess is when given a metaphor our brains just don't have to do as much work to frame the concept and understand it, and retention is better as it's condensed.

lsinger 7y ago

It’s a relatively known piece of “wisdom” from storytelling: “The more specific we are, the more universal something can become. Life is in the details. If you generalize, it doesn't resonate. The specificity of it is what resonates.” [https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/jacqueline_woodson_882873 https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/jacqueline_woodson_882873] You can repeat a generalization over and over again. It sounds right — but it doesn’t stick. You can’t translate it into your own practice. You learn the words, but not the intuition. Telling concrete stories helps us learn the intuition, too.

Lindenmayer 7y ago
This really reminds me of the concept of elaborative encoding whereas we learn by connecting facts with preexisting knowledge [0]. Abstract things do not stick because we have less touch points to connect them with. The Baker Baker paradox for instance describes the fact that we are much more likely to remember that a person is a baker than the more abstract fact that his name is Baker [1]. [0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elaborative_encoding https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elaborative_encoding [1] https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/mental-mishaps/201002/large-mocha-without-name https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/mental-mishaps/20100...