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> The solution should be to education society, not lock down information flow to protect society. I'm not convinced the experiment we've performed over the pa

> The solution should be to education society, not lock down information flow to protect society. I'm not convinced the experiment we've performed over the past ~15 years is bearing this out.

im3w1l 7y ago
This a small perspective. We have experimented with free information vs locked down information over many hundreds of years. We consistently see that bad people take control over the information lock and use it to create tyranny and death.
reaperducer 7y ago
It's hard to say. I think it's more that society has changed and become less tolerant. The sorts of G-philes we used to distribute without a care over BBSes in the 80's get people arrested today. There was an article in the local newspaper a couple of months ago about a guy being arrested for sending someone bomb-making instructions over the internet. We did that all the time. Even plans for how to make a floppy disk explode inside someone's drive. The Anarchist's Cookbook didn't cause mass terror in the 20th century. I wonder if it's even available in libraries anymore.
- jedberg 7y ago
  > I wonder if it's even available in libraries anymore. I just checked my local library, and they currently have a copy on the shelves that I could check out. It doesn't even seem to be "adults only". I've never actually seen a physical copy before (only photocopies of some pages that my friend asked me to "hold onto for him" and PDFs). Now you've inspired me to check it out next time I'm at the library. I know for sure that the PDF of the 2000 version by the Jolly Roger is still available online though.
ben509 7y ago
The biggest part of the experiment that has failed is our government run school system, so maybe we fix that rather than give the government more control.
lunias 7y ago
I'm not convinced that we've done much at all to educate society about the technology that permeates our 2020 existence. The elementary, middle, high school offerings for computer science / engineering related classes are dismal. The current trend is to dumb everything down ("make convenient / easy") until it's accessible by everyone so that then everyone is ultimately left dependent on some company.

> The solution should be to education society, not lock down information flow to protect society. I'm not convinced the experiment we've performed over the past ~15 years is bearing this out.

im3w1l 7y ago

This a small perspective. We have experimented with free information vs locked down information over many hundreds of years. We consistently see that bad people take control over the information lock and use it to create tyranny and death.

reaperducer 7y ago

It's hard to say. I think it's more that society has changed and become less tolerant. The sorts of G-philes we used to distribute without a care over BBSes in the 80's get people arrested today. There was an article in the local newspaper a couple of months ago about a guy being arrested for sending someone bomb-making instructions over the internet. We did that all the time. Even plans for how to make a floppy disk explode inside someone's drive. The Anarchist's Cookbook didn't cause mass terror in the 20th century. I wonder if it's even available in libraries anymore.

jedberg 7y ago
> I wonder if it's even available in libraries anymore. I just checked my local library, and they currently have a copy on the shelves that I could check out. It doesn't even seem to be "adults only". I've never actually seen a physical copy before (only photocopies of some pages that my friend asked me to "hold onto for him" and PDFs). Now you've inspired me to check it out next time I'm at the library. I know for sure that the PDF of the 2000 version by the Jolly Roger is still available online though.

ben509 7y ago

The biggest part of the experiment that has failed is our government run school system, so maybe we fix that rather than give the government more control.

lunias 7y ago

I'm not convinced that we've done much at all to educate society about the technology that permeates our 2020 existence. The elementary, middle, high school offerings for computer science / engineering related classes are dismal. The current trend is to dumb everything down ("make convenient / easy") until it's accessible by everyone so that then everyone is ultimately left dependent on some company.