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You said it: > It is new and unknown Better be safe than sorry. Can you imagine what we sould say if the virus ended up spreading and killing a fair amount o

You said it: > It is new and unknown Better be safe than sorry. Can you imagine what we sould say if the virus ended up spreading and killing a fair amount of people just because we couldn't be bothered taking a few precautions? The reasoning is simply that there is no good reason not to do it.

0xffff2 7y ago
There's certainly a good reason not to do it. Even discounting the bizarre and arcane nature of medical billing in the United States, this level of care is surely costing someone a great deal of money. That doesn't mean it's not worth it, but to say there is "no good reason not to do it" is trivially untrue.
- Voloskaya 7y ago
  > this level of care is surely costing someone a great deal of money. This level of care prevents spending much more money monitoring/treating many more people that this patient might have been in contact with otherwise (some of them being doctors and expert on this kind of disease that we don't want to have to put in isolation for a week when we need them the most).
- nexuist 7y ago
  > this level of care is surely costing someone a great deal of money. Do you think it costs more to operate the robot than the robot company will make from the good PR this sort of headline generates for them? How many more hospitals and doctors will invest in the field of robotics and this company specifically if they can say it was them to helped get this virus under control? Not to mention the ISOPOD manufacturer, who will no doubt be fielding new orders after this article. There is no good reason not to do it because, even if this turns out to be a slightly more harmful flu, the lessons, experience, and data gained from using these procedures and technology will enable a better response the next time something similar happens, and next time might be the "real deal." To hell with financial responsibility if stopping a global pandemic is on the line!
llamataboot 7y ago
Sure, but we know the flu is deadly and relatively communicable and we certainly don't take this level of precaution. I'm suggesting that there is a spectrum between "taking some cold meds and still going to work" and "locking down entire cities and treating people with robots" and that many considerations go into where we decide collectively (and individually) to be on that spectrum. I'm not arguing this isn't dangerous, that there isn't unpredictability or anxiey about something new, or even that the precautions aren't necessary, I'm just curious as to why this particular coronavirus has landed on the far right side of the serverity-of-precautions scale. -- (I mean there's also "no good reason" not to make sure the entire world has access to clean drinking water and antibiotics and those things kills a fair amount of people...)
- llamataboot 7y ago
  Also, there is always the chance of making things worse. ie; think about a hypothetical where some sick people are in the hospital, but such a big deal is made of something that many relatively healthy people come to that hospital with a cold or something, now you've probably increased the risk of exposure.
- cowboysauce 7y ago
  >Sure, but we know the flu is deadly and relatively communicable and we certainly don't take this level of precaution. The death rate for the flu averages around 0.1%. The Wuhan virus is currently just over 3%, the 1918 flu that killed millions had a death rate of around 2%. The flu is deadly, the Wuhan virus is currently 30x deadlier than the flu. Additionally, flu vaccines already exist as well as anti-virals that have been shown to work on the flu. There is no vaccine for the Wuhan virus nor am I aware of any anti-virals that have been shown to work on it.
- Voloskaya 7y ago
  > Sure, but we know the flu is deadly and relatively communicable and we certainly don't take this level of precaution. We know exactly how deadly the flu is (i.e. not very), how to prevent and treat it and we can accurately predict how it will spread. The coronavirus is a zoonotic disease, a virus that jumped from animal to human this doesn't happen every other day. Most of these diseases are very deadly, much more than your regular flu. We also don't know much about it or how to prevent/treat it. So again the reason why we take a lot of precautions is that a lot is unknown about this virus and its effects.

0xffff2 7y ago

There's certainly a good reason not to do it. Even discounting the bizarre and arcane nature of medical billing in the United States, this level of care is surely costing someone a great deal of money. That doesn't mean it's not worth it, but to say there is "no good reason not to do it" is trivially untrue.

Voloskaya 7y ago
> this level of care is surely costing someone a great deal of money. This level of care prevents spending much more money monitoring/treating many more people that this patient might have been in contact with otherwise (some of them being doctors and expert on this kind of disease that we don't want to have to put in isolation for a week when we need them the most).
nexuist 7y ago
> this level of care is surely costing someone a great deal of money. Do you think it costs more to operate the robot than the robot company will make from the good PR this sort of headline generates for them? How many more hospitals and doctors will invest in the field of robotics and this company specifically if they can say it was them to helped get this virus under control? Not to mention the ISOPOD manufacturer, who will no doubt be fielding new orders after this article. There is no good reason not to do it because, even if this turns out to be a slightly more harmful flu, the lessons, experience, and data gained from using these procedures and technology will enable a better response the next time something similar happens, and next time might be the "real deal." To hell with financial responsibility if stopping a global pandemic is on the line!

llamataboot 7y ago

Sure, but we know the flu is deadly and relatively communicable and we certainly don't take this level of precaution. I'm suggesting that there is a spectrum between "taking some cold meds and still going to work" and "locking down entire cities and treating people with robots" and that many considerations go into where we decide collectively (and individually) to be on that spectrum. I'm not arguing this isn't dangerous, that there isn't unpredictability or anxiey about something new, or even that the precautions aren't necessary, I'm just curious as to why this particular coronavirus has landed on the far right side of the serverity-of-precautions scale. -- (I mean there's also "no good reason" not to make sure the entire world has access to clean drinking water and antibiotics and those things kills a fair amount of people...)

llamataboot 7y ago
Also, there is always the chance of making things worse. ie; think about a hypothetical where some sick people are in the hospital, but such a big deal is made of something that many relatively healthy people come to that hospital with a cold or something, now you've probably increased the risk of exposure.
cowboysauce 7y ago
>Sure, but we know the flu is deadly and relatively communicable and we certainly don't take this level of precaution. The death rate for the flu averages around 0.1%. The Wuhan virus is currently just over 3%, the 1918 flu that killed millions had a death rate of around 2%. The flu is deadly, the Wuhan virus is currently 30x deadlier than the flu. Additionally, flu vaccines already exist as well as anti-virals that have been shown to work on the flu. There is no vaccine for the Wuhan virus nor am I aware of any anti-virals that have been shown to work on it.
Voloskaya 7y ago
> Sure, but we know the flu is deadly and relatively communicable and we certainly don't take this level of precaution. We know exactly how deadly the flu is (i.e. not very), how to prevent and treat it and we can accurately predict how it will spread. The coronavirus is a zoonotic disease, a virus that jumped from animal to human this doesn't happen every other day. Most of these diseases are very deadly, much more than your regular flu. We also don't know much about it or how to prevent/treat it. So again the reason why we take a lot of precautions is that a lot is unknown about this virus and its effects.