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I'm not sure what you mean by that being the point in brexit. Theresa May voted for remain and introduced bills like this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inv

by McDev 7y ago

I'm not sure what you mean by that being the point in brexit. Theresa May voted for remain and introduced bills like this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Investigatory_Powers_Act_2016 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Investigatory_Powers_Act_2016

ptah 7y ago
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-51196849 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-51196849
ptah 7y ago
EDIT: your link kind of proves my point: "On 21 December 2016, the European Court of Justice (ECJ) declared that the generalised retention of certain types of personal data is unlawful, although little is known as to how this will affect the Investigatory Powers Act at this stage." also my perception is that may and cameron were doing reverse psychology by backing remain
- CameronNemo 7y ago
  I mean Cameron did put it to a binding referendum with a simple majority. At least part of him was in support of leaving for him to do that.
  - joncrocks 7y ago
    The referendum was advisory/non-binding. https://fullfact.org/europe/was-eu-referendum-advisory/ https://fullfact.org/europe/was-eu-referendum-advisory/
  - NeedMoreTea 7y ago
    No, he 100% expected a comfortable remain win. He called the non-binding referendum because it was a major manifesto promise. It was a manifesto promise solely as an attempt to shut up the awkward squad -- the extreme Brexit wing of the Tory party, and put them back on the fringe for another decade or so. Then expected another hung parliament and probable coalition, not a majority. There are plenty of major Tory figures on record confirming this.
raverbashing 7y ago
> Theresa May voted for remain Allegedly. It was more of a 'agreeing with the government in place at the time'
- tomelders 7y ago
  As a minister, she had to agree with the government. It's called "Cabinet Collective Responsibility" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabinet_collective_responsibility https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabinet_collective_responsibil... Technically, it was suspended during the 2016 referendum, but was it? Really? Nah. Had Cameron's gamble paid off, Gove and Grayling would have been out on their ear.
  - bjelkeman-again 7y ago
    He put down as a stake the future of the country in an internal power struggle. Politics at its finest.

by McDev 7y ago

ptah 7y ago

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-51196849 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-51196849

ptah 7y ago

EDIT: your link kind of proves my point: "On 21 December 2016, the European Court of Justice (ECJ) declared that the generalised retention of certain types of personal data is unlawful, although little is known as to how this will affect the Investigatory Powers Act at this stage." also my perception is that may and cameron were doing reverse psychology by backing remain

CameronNemo 7y ago
I mean Cameron did put it to a binding referendum with a simple majority. At least part of him was in support of leaving for him to do that.
- joncrocks 7y ago
  The referendum was advisory/non-binding. https://fullfact.org/europe/was-eu-referendum-advisory/ https://fullfact.org/europe/was-eu-referendum-advisory/
- NeedMoreTea 7y ago
  No, he 100% expected a comfortable remain win. He called the non-binding referendum because it was a major manifesto promise. It was a manifesto promise solely as an attempt to shut up the awkward squad -- the extreme Brexit wing of the Tory party, and put them back on the fringe for another decade or so. Then expected another hung parliament and probable coalition, not a majority. There are plenty of major Tory figures on record confirming this.

raverbashing 7y ago

> Theresa May voted for remain Allegedly. It was more of a 'agreeing with the government in place at the time'

tomelders 7y ago
As a minister, she had to agree with the government. It's called "Cabinet Collective Responsibility" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabinet_collective_responsibility https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabinet_collective_responsibil... Technically, it was suspended during the 2016 referendum, but was it? Really? Nah. Had Cameron's gamble paid off, Gove and Grayling would have been out on their ear.
- bjelkeman-again 7y ago
  He put down as a stake the future of the country in an internal power struggle. Politics at its finest.