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The entire reason why we're facing down these privacy and surveillance issues is because they came one small step at a time. First it's rolled out for some incr

The entire reason why we're facing down these privacy and surveillance issues is because they came one small step at a time. First it's rolled out for some incredibly small part of the population, gradually expanded to everyone else as people get used to the new norm. Rinse and repeat. The way you win battles like this is by winning many smaller ones and pushing back what is acceptable or not one step at a time.

BLKNSLVR 7y ago
I'm on both sides of the fence a bit. I agree entirely that victories are piecemeal, but the facial recognition issue just feels like the piece of the iceberg that's above the water. The rest of the iceberg, supporting things such as facial recognition, feels as if it will never be addressed, and that's the war that needs to be won. My original reply written prior to the above: And yet nothing has been done about the information dragnet that is the Internet, even after the Cambridge Analytica situation got worldwide press. Well, the GDPR happened, actually, but that's only a reaction from a single country. And this has been going on, and escalating, for years with almost zero political will to halt or even slow it down. Winning on Facial Recognition will be license for most governments to happily ignore the other, more insidious, creepings of privacy invasion.
- matthewheath 7y ago
  The EU is not a country, it is a collection of 27 countries.
  - BLKNSLVR 7y ago
    My apologies, I had incorrectly associated it with just Germany rather than the EU as a whole.
- tremon 7y ago
  The Cambridge Analytica situation wasn't a founding cause for the GDPR, it came to light after the legislation was already finalized. It just happened to coincide (roughly) with the GDPR enforcement date, and helped illustrate why such regulation was necessary.
eckza 7y ago
100%. It’s all case-by-case; moment-by-moment. “And then they came for me”, in full effect. Also, unrelated: but fuck yeah F-Zero. <3

BLKNSLVR 7y ago

I'm on both sides of the fence a bit. I agree entirely that victories are piecemeal, but the facial recognition issue just feels like the piece of the iceberg that's above the water. The rest of the iceberg, supporting things such as facial recognition, feels as if it will never be addressed, and that's the war that needs to be won. My original reply written prior to the above: And yet nothing has been done about the information dragnet that is the Internet, even after the Cambridge Analytica situation got worldwide press. Well, the GDPR happened, actually, but that's only a reaction from a single country. And this has been going on, and escalating, for years with almost zero political will to halt or even slow it down. Winning on Facial Recognition will be license for most governments to happily ignore the other, more insidious, creepings of privacy invasion.

matthewheath 7y ago
The EU is not a country, it is a collection of 27 countries.
- BLKNSLVR 7y ago
  My apologies, I had incorrectly associated it with just Germany rather than the EU as a whole.
tremon 7y ago
The Cambridge Analytica situation wasn't a founding cause for the GDPR, it came to light after the legislation was already finalized. It just happened to coincide (roughly) with the GDPR enforcement date, and helped illustrate why such regulation was necessary.

eckza 7y ago

100%. It’s all case-by-case; moment-by-moment. “And then they came for me”, in full effect. Also, unrelated: but fuck yeah F-Zero. <3