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Rocket League is leaving Steam?!? I guess I shouldn't be surprised but that is very annoying. I'm definitely not looking forward to the fracturing landscape tha

Rocket League is leaving Steam?!? I guess I shouldn't be surprised but that is very annoying. I'm definitely not looking forward to the fracturing landscape that is ahead.

cwyers 7y ago
A fractured landscape is a competitive one. Valve had several years of high margins (meaning more money to them, less to the people that made games) and stagnation of the Steam platform. I prefer this fracturing to the monoculture.
- Polylactic_acid 7y ago
  It would be nice if any of the game stores would actually compete instead of paying for exclusives. Steam has 1000x the features of any of the other stores. Origin has had probably a decade to catch up and yet its just falling further behind. All this fracturing means for end users is more rootkit launchers to install and less games for linux users.
  - cwyers 7y ago
    It's a chicken and an egg problem. Developers won't come until you have marketshare, and users won't come until you have games. Paying for exclusives is a way to bootstrap a chicken without an egg.
    - sillysaurusx 7y ago
      Worked real well for TV. Lots of people went back to piracy because you have to be on so many platforms. I guess it's not a fair comparison though, since you can't really subscribe to steam. So I regret saying anything. Has anyone tried that model? "Pay us $30/mo and play whatever you want."
      - mroche 7y ago
        EA has this with Origin Access (2 tiers, $5m/$30y and $15m/$100y), alongside Ubisoft with UPlay+ ($15m). And I guess platforms like Stadia would fall under this category. Of course, the games are specific to the publisher or the partnerships the platform has.
        jamie_ca 7y ago
        See also Xbox Game Pass for PC (10+ games, Windows 10), and VivePort Infinity (for VR, 600+ games).
        oarsinsync 7y ago
        Playstation Now for PS4/PC (800+ games, PS4 / Windows)
    - Polylactic_acid 7y ago
      I understand that side of it but valve goes above and beyond so much that even if Epic or Origin had huge user counts I seriously doubt they would put the effort in to building features like "remote play together" which streams a game to other people and streams their controllers back to you so you can all play the same local coop game. Or Proton which allows playing games on linux. Valve even has linux kernel devs around who fix bugs in drivers for gaming hardware. Steam may have been a monopoly but it was a pretty good one for the end user.
- nwallin 7y ago
  Nonsense. Steam as a platform is head and shoulders above where it was a year ago. All my Windows exclusive games appear side by side with my native Linux games. I no longer have to have wine installed and maintain a separate Windows (in wine) Steam installation.

Rocket League is leaving Steam?!? I guess I shouldn't be surprised but that is very annoying. I'm definitely not looking forward to the fracturing landscape that is ahead.

cwyers 7y ago

A fractured landscape is a competitive one. Valve had several years of high margins (meaning more money to them, less to the people that made games) and stagnation of the Steam platform. I prefer this fracturing to the monoculture.

Polylactic_acid 7y ago
It would be nice if any of the game stores would actually compete instead of paying for exclusives. Steam has 1000x the features of any of the other stores. Origin has had probably a decade to catch up and yet its just falling further behind. All this fracturing means for end users is more rootkit launchers to install and less games for linux users.
- cwyers 7y ago
  It's a chicken and an egg problem. Developers won't come until you have marketshare, and users won't come until you have games. Paying for exclusives is a way to bootstrap a chicken without an egg.
  - sillysaurusx 7y ago
    Worked real well for TV. Lots of people went back to piracy because you have to be on so many platforms. I guess it's not a fair comparison though, since you can't really subscribe to steam. So I regret saying anything. Has anyone tried that model? "Pay us $30/mo and play whatever you want."
    - mroche 7y ago
      EA has this with Origin Access (2 tiers, $5m/$30y and $15m/$100y), alongside Ubisoft with UPlay+ ($15m). And I guess platforms like Stadia would fall under this category. Of course, the games are specific to the publisher or the partnerships the platform has.
      - jamie_ca 7y ago
        See also Xbox Game Pass for PC (10+ games, Windows 10), and VivePort Infinity (for VR, 600+ games).
        oarsinsync 7y ago
        Playstation Now for PS4/PC (800+ games, PS4 / Windows)
  - Polylactic_acid 7y ago
    I understand that side of it but valve goes above and beyond so much that even if Epic or Origin had huge user counts I seriously doubt they would put the effort in to building features like "remote play together" which streams a game to other people and streams their controllers back to you so you can all play the same local coop game. Or Proton which allows playing games on linux. Valve even has linux kernel devs around who fix bugs in drivers for gaming hardware. Steam may have been a monopoly but it was a pretty good one for the end user.
nwallin 7y ago
Nonsense. Steam as a platform is head and shoulders above where it was a year ago. All my Windows exclusive games appear side by side with my native Linux games. I no longer have to have wine installed and maintain a separate Windows (in wine) Steam installation.