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I trust the government more than a for profit corp for this.
by thatfrenchguy 7y ago
I trust the government more than a for profit corp for this.
- brigandish 7y agoWhich form of abstract grouping of people is the most trustworthy?
- JohnFen 7y agoThe group that you have some sort of actual say in how they operate. That usually means the government, not a private business.
- cubano 7y agoI would say that statistically, over a large sample size, that the chances that either would abuse information is exactly equal.
- celticmusic 7y agoI don't know that I'd say it's exactly equal, but the idea that any typical individual really has much say over the Federal Governments decisions is laughable. Even if it were your local town, city, or county government managing it, do you think they're going to fight the federal government if they ask for access to it? Over you, a nobody, when the Federal Government is going to threaten to withhold money for whatever if they don't?
- thrwaway69 7y agoThis is why we need smaller countries in any democracy. Anything too big isn't democratic as much as political spending, alluring promises (that will be broken), campaigning, making the others look more evil than you, etc etc
- bsanr2 7y agoYou would be wrong. And in the unlikely case that you're right, you can organize and/or vote to do something about it.
- jjeaff 7y agohttps://www.vice.com/en_us/article/evjekz/the-california-dmv-is-making-dollar50m-a-year-selling-drivers-personal-information https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/evjekz/the-california-dmv... That's just one small example.
- brigandish 7y agoYou can buy shares that give you voting rights in a company, and you can decide to spend (or not) your money with a company. The latter is not available to you with the government and has been shown, I would argue, to have a greater effect over a company than voting in a democracy, and that's as an individual. Maybe that's comparable with picking parties to vote for but it's not quite the same. I wouldn't trust either form over the other though, and if anything, I'd want their incentives to be set up so they were mostly in opposition so as to limit the power of each other. If I was to pick an abstract group to trust, it surely would be family first.
- JohnFen 7y ago> You can buy shares that give you voting rights in a company Which is saying that you can only have a "vote" if you're wealthy enough. That doesn't seem like an actual solution to me. > and you can decide to spend (or not) your money with a company. Which is what I do, but doing that doesn't affect the company's behavior.
- brigandish 7y ago> Which is saying that you can only have a "vote" if you're wealthy enough. No, it's saying you can vote if you buy a share. Are you saying that wealthy individuals in a democracy don't have an outsized advantage in shaping policy and the behaviour of government? But they have the same voting rights as you or me, so there must be something else going on… > doing that doesn't affect the company's behavior. You're saying that withholding your money from a company has no effect on its behaviour? Try cancelling a long standing account with a company today, like your phone provider, and see if it provokes any kind of response. You might get a free upgrade out of it.
- refurb 7y agoSure, but a for-profit Corp can’t arrest you, in prison you, or take away your rights.
- blaser-waffle 7y agoSure, but they can lobby heavily to make that a likelihood, e.g. For-Profit Prisons.
- jjeaff 7y agoDid you know most DMVs are selling your data to private companies?
- collyw 7y agoWhat's a DMV?
- x62Bh7948f 7y agodepartment of motor vehicles