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I know the whole post is about progressives "erasing" evidence of failures, but your points don't make sense. 1. Could you point to things to back up socialism

I know the whole post is about progressives "erasing" evidence of failures, but your points don't make sense. 1. Could you point to things to back up socialism failed dismally? 2. At what point is affirmative consent anything similar to free love. Free love should still be consensual. 3. Eugenics is definitely a stain on progressivism, however I disagree that that has been erased. There's plenty of evidence of the US being swept up in the eugenics fervor.

rayiner 7y ago
> 1. Could you point to things to back up socialism failed dismally? Literally every country built in socialist economic principles, I.e. collective ownership of capital. > 2. At what point is affirmative consent anything similar to free love. Free love should still be consensual. That’s an attempt to reformulate “free love” to fit modern sensibilities. Read Dworkin’s contemporaneous take on the sexual revolution, starting at p. 89: https://www.feministes-radicales.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Andrea-DWORKIN-Right-Wing-Women-The-Politics-of-Domesticated-Females-19831.pdf https://www.feministes-radicales.org/wp-content/uploads/2010... > In the sexual-liberation movement of the sixties, its ideology and practice, neither force nor the subordinate status of women was an issue. It was assumed that — unrepressed — everyone wanted intercourse all the time Affirmative consent is more than just “consent” (which too often turns into “the woman didn’t physically resist”). Combined with #metoo, it narrows the scope of sex to something shared between individuals under specific circumstances under specific terms and conditions, and demarcates vast swaths of human experience (like the work place) where discussing or propositioning sexual activity is inappropriate. That’s a huge retrenchment from “free love.”

rayiner 7y ago

> 1. Could you point to things to back up socialism failed dismally? Literally every country built in socialist economic principles, I.e. collective ownership of capital. > 2. At what point is affirmative consent anything similar to free love. Free love should still be consensual. That’s an attempt to reformulate “free love” to fit modern sensibilities. Read Dworkin’s contemporaneous take on the sexual revolution, starting at p. 89: https://www.feministes-radicales.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Andrea-DWORKIN-Right-Wing-Women-The-Politics-of-Domesticated-Females-19831.pdf https://www.feministes-radicales.org/wp-content/uploads/2010... > In the sexual-liberation movement of the sixties, its ideology and practice, neither force nor the subordinate status of women was an issue. It was assumed that — unrepressed — everyone wanted intercourse all the time Affirmative consent is more than just “consent” (which too often turns into “the woman didn’t physically resist”). Combined with #metoo, it narrows the scope of sex to something shared between individuals under specific circumstances under specific terms and conditions, and demarcates vast swaths of human experience (like the work place) where discussing or propositioning sexual activity is inappropriate. That’s a huge retrenchment from “free love.”