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" Lanham, Md. (Jan. 8, 2019)— The message is clear. Treatment for attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), along with the related health risks it poses,

" Lanham, Md. (Jan. 8, 2019)— The message is clear. Treatment for attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), along with the related health risks it poses, has the possibility of adding an average of nine to 13 years to the lifespan of children and adults diagnosed with ADHD. This is the implication of a cutting-edge research study conducted by Russell A. Barkley, Ph.D., who evaluated the connection between ADHD and 14 critical health factors including nutrition, exercise, and tobacco and alcohol use." https://chadd.org/advocacy-blog/new-research-suggests-untreated-adhd-reduces-life-expectancy/ https://chadd.org/advocacy-blog/new-research-suggests-untrea... ADHD is an extremely harmful condition. You are more likely to end up in jail, crash a car, suffer from diabetes, smoke etc. than neurotypical people. 9 to 13 years in life expectancy, I mean, wowzah. And opinions held in society or groups obviously have an effect on individuals. That's how social systems work.

viklove 7y ago
I feel like you're now arguing in bad faith. Medicine for heart health does not change your behavior significantly. ADHD medication does. That's the distinction I'm trying to make.
- 0xcde4c3db 7y ago
  > Medicine for heart health does not change your behavior significantly. This part of your argument is decidedly false. It's been an open secret for decades among public performers of several stripes (actors, public speakers, musicians, etc.) that beta blockers can prevent stage fright [1]. More recently, there have been multiple studies suggesting a link between statin use and increased irritability and aggression [2] [3]. Basically, the distinction between "psychoactive" and "non-psychoactive" drugs is more about the reasons people take them than it is about the drugs themselves. To a first approximation, there's no such thing as an objectively "non-psychoactive" drug. [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/21/arts/mixed-reviews-for-a-stagefright-remedy.html https://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/21/arts/mixed-reviews-for-a-... [2] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5005588/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5005588/ [3] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4488854/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4488854/

viklove 7y ago

I feel like you're now arguing in bad faith. Medicine for heart health does not change your behavior significantly. ADHD medication does. That's the distinction I'm trying to make.

0xcde4c3db 7y ago
> Medicine for heart health does not change your behavior significantly. This part of your argument is decidedly false. It's been an open secret for decades among public performers of several stripes (actors, public speakers, musicians, etc.) that beta blockers can prevent stage fright [1]. More recently, there have been multiple studies suggesting a link between statin use and increased irritability and aggression [2] [3]. Basically, the distinction between "psychoactive" and "non-psychoactive" drugs is more about the reasons people take them than it is about the drugs themselves. To a first approximation, there's no such thing as an objectively "non-psychoactive" drug. [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/21/arts/mixed-reviews-for-a-stagefright-remedy.html https://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/21/arts/mixed-reviews-for-a-... [2] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5005588/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5005588/ [3] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4488854/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4488854/