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You can substitute India for America and your points stand. I think there's lots of blame to go on companies like Cambridge analytica. That tech is literally a

You can substitute India for America and your points stand. I think there's lots of blame to go on companies like Cambridge analytica. That tech is literally a weapon of mass destruction.

artificial 7y ago
Zygna did something similar to CA, so have previous campaigns. Plenty of blame to go with engagement algorithms and suppressing things with Orwellian terms like "unbiasing" and filtering auto complete results and having execs allow behavior since they're on the same side. I think the past is being looked at through rose colored lenses. New media enables more people to capture and share as opposed to the official mouth pieces of traditional broadcast media setting the story. Tech is just a thing, people inside echo chambers and settling for the first thing that agrees with them is the exact opposite of critical thinking.
oh_sigh 7y ago
You think the US media supports the US government for everything? Have you been reading the news the past 3 years? It seems to me to be just the opposite, where a majority of the voices in the media are against whatever the government(ie Trump) does. Heck, the few times when segments of the media agree with the government, it comes couched in language like "I hate Trump as much as you, but this time he might be onto something"
- pjc50 7y ago
  The press in the US is just as factional as the parties. But there's a subset who live off slander - Alex Jones eventually got sued off the air for lying about Sandy Hook. That kind of thing does far more damage than just supporting one party or the other.
  - ameister14 7y ago
    Which is why it's illegal and you get sued for it. I don't think that's a good comparison - something illegal that is routinely punished vs something that is neither illegal nor punished, but has massive effect
    - pjc50 7y ago
      Well, it's not criminal and it's very hard to succeed in a slander action in the US. So it's very rarely punished. Which is why he could run a channel of lies for two decades. Most of the time it was bizarre fictional allegations against the government.
- Red_Leaves_Flyy 7y ago
  I think media widely supports the middle grounds that both Republicans and democrats occupy: Drops lots of bombs on civilians in the middle east. Make a ton of money for shareholders from healthcare. Ignore, or pay only lip service to, the crimes against humanity of corrupt regimes like Israel, Saudi Arabia, China. Wholeheartedly support the MIC. For profit prisons. Housing cost crisis. Failing infrastructure. Small stories get through here and there. But no media companies are giving the ruling class a hard time about these things. Though They're happy to spend hours every day shitting on trump. Might that just be a distraction from these dire issues we can track by the coffins behind them
goatinaboat 7y ago
I think there's lots of blame to go on companies like Cambridge analytica. CA literally didn’t do anything that FB itself didn’t do, and was praised for doing in the previous election cycle. They just did it for the “wrong” side.

You can substitute India for America and your points stand. I think there's lots of blame to go on companies like Cambridge analytica. That tech is literally a weapon of mass destruction.

artificial 7y ago

Zygna did something similar to CA, so have previous campaigns. Plenty of blame to go with engagement algorithms and suppressing things with Orwellian terms like "unbiasing" and filtering auto complete results and having execs allow behavior since they're on the same side. I think the past is being looked at through rose colored lenses. New media enables more people to capture and share as opposed to the official mouth pieces of traditional broadcast media setting the story. Tech is just a thing, people inside echo chambers and settling for the first thing that agrees with them is the exact opposite of critical thinking.

oh_sigh 7y ago

You think the US media supports the US government for everything? Have you been reading the news the past 3 years? It seems to me to be just the opposite, where a majority of the voices in the media are against whatever the government(ie Trump) does. Heck, the few times when segments of the media agree with the government, it comes couched in language like "I hate Trump as much as you, but this time he might be onto something"

pjc50 7y ago
The press in the US is just as factional as the parties. But there's a subset who live off slander - Alex Jones eventually got sued off the air for lying about Sandy Hook. That kind of thing does far more damage than just supporting one party or the other.
- ameister14 7y ago
  Which is why it's illegal and you get sued for it. I don't think that's a good comparison - something illegal that is routinely punished vs something that is neither illegal nor punished, but has massive effect
  - pjc50 7y ago
    Well, it's not criminal and it's very hard to succeed in a slander action in the US. So it's very rarely punished. Which is why he could run a channel of lies for two decades. Most of the time it was bizarre fictional allegations against the government.
Red_Leaves_Flyy 7y ago
I think media widely supports the middle grounds that both Republicans and democrats occupy: Drops lots of bombs on civilians in the middle east. Make a ton of money for shareholders from healthcare. Ignore, or pay only lip service to, the crimes against humanity of corrupt regimes like Israel, Saudi Arabia, China. Wholeheartedly support the MIC. For profit prisons. Housing cost crisis. Failing infrastructure. Small stories get through here and there. But no media companies are giving the ruling class a hard time about these things. Though They're happy to spend hours every day shitting on trump. Might that just be a distraction from these dire issues we can track by the coffins behind them

goatinaboat 7y ago

I think there's lots of blame to go on companies like Cambridge analytica. CA literally didn’t do anything that FB itself didn’t do, and was praised for doing in the previous election cycle. They just did it for the “wrong” side.