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> Yes, I get that "lifestyle changes" could help No. Just don't entertain this idea. You can go 20 years since the first time someone told you you may be ADH

by bnjms 7y ago

> Yes, I get that "lifestyle changes" could help No. Just don't entertain this idea. You can go 20 years since the first time someone told you you may be ADHD or depressed with subsequent diagnoses. Then tell yourself it's all in behavior no one needs drugs. But twenty years on you'll still find yourself in the same cyclical patterns of periodic depression or chronic inability to select your attention to a task. "Lifestyle changes" could help with the right crutch. But if you need Ritalin or another drug to learn those lifestyle changes so be it. In your (not quite perfect) comparison. It's as if the pill will reduce cardiac arrest and improve peoples aptitude to learn to run for 30 minutes daily.

colechristensen 7y ago
Very true. There are about a dozen factors with a positive correlation with each other, but they are not links in a causal chain. One does not simply "fix" them, they all have feedback on one another. The knowledge of how they are related helps, but does not fix.
ninjakeyboard 7y ago
Yeah I'm 36 getting a diagnosis/script now and it took an incredible amount of distress to finally get me to the doctor.
- filoleg 7y ago
  There is definitely a lot of internalized shame/pressure when it comes to ADHD diagnosis and seeing a specialist. I have been diagnosed and prescribed since many years ago, but I still feel the distress and get anxious every time I am forced to switch a provider due to life events (nothing dramatic; usually just either to me moving states or my provider moving states, which is exactly what happened with my most recent one).
- steve_adams_86 7y ago
  You're not alone. I was 33 on a high powered rocket to the bottom. I think ADHD can erode your sense of self, your self esteem, and as a result, every part of you. The distress gets real. And yet once you finally realize you _need_ help, you have such a low appreciation for yourself that you don't believe you _deserve_ help. If I didn't have kids I probably wouldn't have gotten help. I did it for them. I'm glad I did now – everyone deserves help.

by bnjms 7y ago

colechristensen 7y ago

Very true. There are about a dozen factors with a positive correlation with each other, but they are not links in a causal chain. One does not simply "fix" them, they all have feedback on one another. The knowledge of how they are related helps, but does not fix.

ninjakeyboard 7y ago

Yeah I'm 36 getting a diagnosis/script now and it took an incredible amount of distress to finally get me to the doctor.

filoleg 7y ago
There is definitely a lot of internalized shame/pressure when it comes to ADHD diagnosis and seeing a specialist. I have been diagnosed and prescribed since many years ago, but I still feel the distress and get anxious every time I am forced to switch a provider due to life events (nothing dramatic; usually just either to me moving states or my provider moving states, which is exactly what happened with my most recent one).
steve_adams_86 7y ago
You're not alone. I was 33 on a high powered rocket to the bottom. I think ADHD can erode your sense of self, your self esteem, and as a result, every part of you. The distress gets real. And yet once you finally realize you _need_ help, you have such a low appreciation for yourself that you don't believe you _deserve_ help. If I didn't have kids I probably wouldn't have gotten help. I did it for them. I'm glad I did now – everyone deserves help.