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I think it's clearly relevant to consider the full range of allegations against Krauss, not just one picked at random that's no more relevant than any of the ot

by foldr 7y ago

I think it's clearly relevant to consider the full range of allegations against Krauss, not just one picked at random that's no more relevant than any of the others. The Esptein connection is relevant because it highlights his ethical bankruptcy in this area. The BuzzFeed article I linked to contains the full ASU report. It's helpful to have a direct link, but I wasn't linking to the wrong page. My paraphrase is accurate. It's clear from her statement that Krauss touched her inappropriately and that she didn't like it. It's for Krauss's employer to decide whether that's a firing offense, not her. It baffles me that anyone would cite this in defense of Krauss. I mean, look at the title of the video! Obviously, there is little connection between Krauss sexually harassing women and whatever he is saying in this article. I was responding to correct people who aren't aware that he has an indisputable record of sexual harassment.

ramblerman 7y ago
> she was not particularly bothered that Krauss had touched her breast without permission. That does not make the behavior appropriate. > It's for Krauss's employer to decide whether that's a firing offense, not her. Yeah, I think you've made your standpoint abundantly clear. 2 adults had an interaction, both are fine with it, then and now, but being a woman she is clearly not capable of deciding for herself if this was offensive, so you are happy to feel violated on her behalf.
- foldr 7y ago
  >both are fine with it, She said very clearly that she was not fine with it: https://youtu.be/wr9OIty2XGg?t=339 https://youtu.be/wr9OIty2XGg?t=339 https://youtu.be/wr9OIty2XGg?t=379 https://youtu.be/wr9OIty2XGg?t=379 My feelings don't come into it. My point is that a university is perfectly justified in firing a professor who touches women sexually without their permission. You yourself care so much about this woman's point of view that you either haven't bothered to watch the video, or have decided to wilfully misrepresent its contents.

by foldr 7y ago

ramblerman 7y ago

> she was not particularly bothered that Krauss had touched her breast without permission. That does not make the behavior appropriate. > It's for Krauss's employer to decide whether that's a firing offense, not her. Yeah, I think you've made your standpoint abundantly clear. 2 adults had an interaction, both are fine with it, then and now, but being a woman she is clearly not capable of deciding for herself if this was offensive, so you are happy to feel violated on her behalf.

foldr 7y ago
>both are fine with it, She said very clearly that she was not fine with it: https://youtu.be/wr9OIty2XGg?t=339 https://youtu.be/wr9OIty2XGg?t=339 https://youtu.be/wr9OIty2XGg?t=379 https://youtu.be/wr9OIty2XGg?t=379 My feelings don't come into it. My point is that a university is perfectly justified in firing a professor who touches women sexually without their permission. You yourself care so much about this woman's point of view that you either haven't bothered to watch the video, or have decided to wilfully misrepresent its contents.