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This "admission" isn't worth anything. Suspended by the wrists tiptoeing into my own shit for days? Sure I would tell them I was operating an al-quaeda safe hou

This "admission" isn't worth anything. Suspended by the wrists tiptoeing into my own shit for days? Sure I would tell them I was operating an al-quaeda safe house, that I was a driver/messenger and that my mother was the queen of England.

meowface 7y ago
I agree, but the leaked document contains more than just information he confessed. It might not be accurate, and/or maybe all of the other al-Qaeda leaders who named him as an associate were also coerced into confessing that, but it's a much more complicated story than what's written in this article.
- beerandt 7y ago
  Having seen the document, it was also interesting to me to read the article again. I might be over-analyzing, but he seems to have chosen his words very carefully: he claims he's a "nobody" and was "minding [his] own business" when he was captured. He says he was bountied as someone else. He plays up the torture, deservingly, but he doesn't really proclaim his innocence. At least not to the extent I would be, were it me. Maybe he's denied his guilt differently in the past, but the article's wording looks suspiciously to me like dancing around a lie. I'm trying to remain objective, but I'm starting to get that bitterness felt once you realized you've been intentionally fooled. Still, everyone deserves due process.
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beerandt 7y ago
I agree, and am equally skeptical, but I'm saying: Maybe there's more to the story than what the detainee chooses to share in his letter to the editor. Read the linked report, even if it's just for insight into how the system isn't working. Edit: Also, fwiw, apparently he was a well known al Qaeda "facilitator" in Karachi, meaning he was implicated by others too. It's not solely his "admission". But also the report claims he's a well behaved, cooperative prisoner who voluntary shared a lot... It's obviously still based on trusting the classified report, if you want to believe it.

meowface 7y ago

I agree, but the leaked document contains more than just information he confessed. It might not be accurate, and/or maybe all of the other al-Qaeda leaders who named him as an associate were also coerced into confessing that, but it's a much more complicated story than what's written in this article.

beerandt 7y ago
Having seen the document, it was also interesting to me to read the article again. I might be over-analyzing, but he seems to have chosen his words very carefully: he claims he's a "nobody" and was "minding [his] own business" when he was captured. He says he was bountied as someone else. He plays up the torture, deservingly, but he doesn't really proclaim his innocence. At least not to the extent I would be, were it me. Maybe he's denied his guilt differently in the past, but the article's wording looks suspiciously to me like dancing around a lie. I'm trying to remain objective, but I'm starting to get that bitterness felt once you realized you've been intentionally fooled. Still, everyone deserves due process.
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beerandt 7y ago

I agree, and am equally skeptical, but I'm saying: Maybe there's more to the story than what the detainee chooses to share in his letter to the editor. Read the linked report, even if it's just for insight into how the system isn't working. Edit: Also, fwiw, apparently he was a well known al Qaeda "facilitator" in Karachi, meaning he was implicated by others too. It's not solely his "admission". But also the report claims he's a well behaved, cooperative prisoner who voluntary shared a lot... It's obviously still based on trusting the classified report, if you want to believe it.