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Why not delete the comment too, since it is completely unnecessary?

by DarkCrusader2 7y ago

umanwizard 7y ago
HN doesn't delete comments, AFAIK (if you browse with showdead on you'll see far worse than this)
- DarkCrusader2 7y ago
  Wow, I just tried it and had no idea. I can kind of understand now why there is so much hate towards the "orange site" on twitter and some other spaces.
dang 7y ago
The HN community wouldn't like it (to put it mildly) if we deleted things based on what we consider unnecessary. They're a curious bunch who want to be able to see everything and decide for themselves. On the other hand, most users don't actually want to wade through the dreck; they just want the option. The solution is: we don't delete comments outright unless the author asks us to. The most we'll do is kill them, which means they get marked as [dead] and are visible to users with 'showdead' set to 'yes' in their profile.
- anon9001 7y ago
  > They're a curious bunch who want to be able to see everything and decide for themselves. That's why I turned showdead on, but I find it's also helpful to calibrate to the norms of the community. I'd recommend everyone at least be aware of the option and give it a try for a bit.
- umanwizard 7y ago
  If someone asked you to, would you delete an entire profile and all comments?
  - dang 7y ago
    I posted about this the other day: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22103996 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22103996
- DarkCrusader2 7y ago
  Makes sense. Is there is difference between [dead] and [flagged]? At the time of my comment, I could see the top post. Now it shows [flagged] with showdead off and [flagged][dead] with showdead on. Also if all this is documented somewhere, please feel free to point me to it. I couldn't find any on my own.
  - dang 7y ago
    Yes, [dead] means it's visible only to users with 'showdead' turned on in their profile, and [flagged] means it got a significant number of user (or in some cases moderator) flags relative to upvotes. So the two have different meanings. The connection between them is that when flags go above a certain threshold relative to upvotes, they also kill the post, putting it into [dead] status.
root_axis 7y ago
It's as good as deleted unless you have "show dead" on.

Why not delete the comment too, since it is completely unnecessary?

umanwizard 7y ago

HN doesn't delete comments, AFAIK (if you browse with showdead on you'll see far worse than this)

DarkCrusader2 7y ago
Wow, I just tried it and had no idea. I can kind of understand now why there is so much hate towards the "orange site" on twitter and some other spaces.

dang 7y ago

The HN community wouldn't like it (to put it mildly) if we deleted things based on what we consider unnecessary. They're a curious bunch who want to be able to see everything and decide for themselves. On the other hand, most users don't actually want to wade through the dreck; they just want the option. The solution is: we don't delete comments outright unless the author asks us to. The most we'll do is kill them, which means they get marked as [dead] and are visible to users with 'showdead' set to 'yes' in their profile.

anon9001 7y ago
> They're a curious bunch who want to be able to see everything and decide for themselves. That's why I turned showdead on, but I find it's also helpful to calibrate to the norms of the community. I'd recommend everyone at least be aware of the option and give it a try for a bit.
umanwizard 7y ago
If someone asked you to, would you delete an entire profile and all comments?
- dang 7y ago
  I posted about this the other day: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22103996 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22103996
DarkCrusader2 7y ago
Makes sense. Is there is difference between [dead] and [flagged]? At the time of my comment, I could see the top post. Now it shows [flagged] with showdead off and [flagged][dead] with showdead on. Also if all this is documented somewhere, please feel free to point me to it. I couldn't find any on my own.
- dang 7y ago
  Yes, [dead] means it's visible only to users with 'showdead' turned on in their profile, and [flagged] means it got a significant number of user (or in some cases moderator) flags relative to upvotes. So the two have different meanings. The connection between them is that when flags go above a certain threshold relative to upvotes, they also kill the post, putting it into [dead] status.

root_axis 7y ago

It's as good as deleted unless you have "show dead" on.