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The complains are about Apples iMacs and Notebooks, which are still pretty pricey for the hardware thats in there. All the iOS devices are very competitive pric

by zyb09 16y ago

The complains are about Apples iMacs and Notebooks, which are still pretty pricey for the hardware thats in there. All the iOS devices are very competitive priced.

sambeau 16y ago
"which are still pretty pricey for the hardware thats in there" Only when you compare unlike with like. As soon as you look at similar spec, design and build quality it is a different story. Like the Dell Adamo "Macbook Air killer": http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-20031079-64.html http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-20031079-64.html
bradleyland 16y ago
I hate to take this bait, but I'm hoping maybe I'll get a recommendation here. This is not rhetorical. I'm not happy with the space I'm using up by having an Ubuntu in a VM on my SSD, so this question is very real, not just some Apple fanboy rant. I would like to buy a second laptop to run Ubuntu, but I want something with incredible build quality. I'm an Apple user, so clearly I don't mind paying a premium (ta-dum tss). The closest I've found is Lenovo, but their product still comes in a fully plastic enclosure containing a hundred screws and as many tacked on plastic panels as a Pontiac Aztek. I've read about their "roll cage", and I think that's a pretty cool idea, but it still doesn't hold up to Apple's unibody designs. I owned a T41 back around 2005 (best guestimate), so I'm not speaking entirely from ignorance of the product. I really don't feel it matches my MacBook Pro. Now, you might say that I'm being unreasonable, but I have the money, and I'm willing to spend it. If anyone has a lead on a well-built laptop with the design simplicity of an Apple MacBook, I'm interested to hear about it. I'm looking for: Something in the 13" range. I don't need anything super-powerful (C2D and 2 GB of RAM should be fine). I do care about build quality. The primary use-case is sysadmin duty. I want something small and light to take on the road that still has a bash shell. I want to go Ubuntu, rather than a 13" MBP because I've been very impressed with the work coming out of the Ubuntu community lately, and I don't like to limit my world to Apple alone. All of our VPSs run Debian, which is similar enough to Ubuntu that I can bring over a lot of my dot-files and customizations.
- zyb09 16y ago
  You could simply install Ubuntu on a MacBook, but if you want something separate check out the HP Envy line.

by zyb09 16y ago

The complains are about Apples iMacs and Notebooks, which are still pretty pricey for the hardware thats in there. All the iOS devices are very competitive priced.

sambeau 16y ago

"which are still pretty pricey for the hardware thats in there" Only when you compare unlike with like. As soon as you look at similar spec, design and build quality it is a different story. Like the Dell Adamo "Macbook Air killer": http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-20031079-64.html http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-20031079-64.html

bradleyland 16y ago

I hate to take this bait, but I'm hoping maybe I'll get a recommendation here. This is not rhetorical. I'm not happy with the space I'm using up by having an Ubuntu in a VM on my SSD, so this question is very real, not just some Apple fanboy rant. I would like to buy a second laptop to run Ubuntu, but I want something with incredible build quality. I'm an Apple user, so clearly I don't mind paying a premium (ta-dum tss). The closest I've found is Lenovo, but their product still comes in a fully plastic enclosure containing a hundred screws and as many tacked on plastic panels as a Pontiac Aztek. I've read about their "roll cage", and I think that's a pretty cool idea, but it still doesn't hold up to Apple's unibody designs. I owned a T41 back around 2005 (best guestimate), so I'm not speaking entirely from ignorance of the product. I really don't feel it matches my MacBook Pro. Now, you might say that I'm being unreasonable, but I have the money, and I'm willing to spend it. If anyone has a lead on a well-built laptop with the design simplicity of an Apple MacBook, I'm interested to hear about it. I'm looking for: Something in the 13" range. I don't need anything super-powerful (C2D and 2 GB of RAM should be fine). I do care about build quality. The primary use-case is sysadmin duty. I want something small and light to take on the road that still has a bash shell. I want to go Ubuntu, rather than a 13" MBP because I've been very impressed with the work coming out of the Ubuntu community lately, and I don't like to limit my world to Apple alone. All of our VPSs run Debian, which is similar enough to Ubuntu that I can bring over a lot of my dot-files and customizations.

zyb09 16y ago
You could simply install Ubuntu on a MacBook, but if you want something separate check out the HP Envy line.