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This is what should be shown when US presidents talks about democracy, values, rights and bla bla bla

• bayesian_horse 7y ago
  At the very least the US system dealt with this issue on its own. It's important to remember that US authorities never used torture in general, and probably not at all since this program was used. That doesn't make what happened any better, but it doesn't mean the US is worse in this regard than China, North Korea or Russia. We just don't know the extent of human rights violations there, and we sort of assume that's their normal behavior anyway.
  • claudeganon 7y ago
    > It's important to remember that US authorities never used torture in general Certainly not how I remember the Iraq War... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ghraib_torture_and_prisoner_abuse https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ghraib_torture_and_priso...
    • bayesian_horse 7y ago
      You ignored the "in general" part on purpose, right?
  • eropple 7y ago
    > At the very least the US system dealt with this issue on its own. We did? Bush and Cheney are free men, as is the entire chain of those who advocated for torture (John Yoo still gets into the New York Times!), as are those who have carried out illegal orders to torture. What did we do, exactly?
    • bayesian_horse 7y ago
      There is very little we don't know about what happened there. And it stopped happening Good luck getting remotely as much from China or Russia...