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Great informative article, but at times the posing is naive or supporting a certain narrative. For instance: The government goes after Islamic terrorists and M
by blurps 7y ago
Great informative article, but at times the posing is naive or supporting a certain narrative.
For instance: The government goes after Islamic terrorists and Mexican illegal immigrants. So what to complain about? Mix cause and effect to pose the illegal immigrants as targeting based on race. Or pose the extremist religious as vulnerable Muslims, targeted on religion. Remove their status as far away from the cold-hard reality, so you can claim racism and prejudice and use that to cripple surveillance. But the suspect is a "citizen"! All weasel words to stay away from the real dirt. Let's go after the atheists for counter terrorism, so we don't discriminate in the eyes of the ACLU...
Then the "ineffective against terrorism"-claim. This can't be supported, because no clear numbers/cases are known. Then conflate laws against terrorism with actual actions against terrorism: Sure, no law directly contributed against countering terrorists, but the surveillance certainly did. Thanks NSA for passing along information to my country many times, so we could capture really dangerous people before they could strike.
Anti-terrorism is also a red herring for surveillance efficiency. Surveillance predominantly used for other national security purposes, such as counter intelligence, foreign intelligence, border safety, crime fighting, and even economic espionage.
Sure, posing any immigrant as a bad hombre, potential MS-13 gang member, selling your children fentanyl-laced drugs, is ridiculous. But the other side of that same coin is posing bad people as vulnerable undocumented citizens who are being targeted on race. It does not do justice to the situation on the ground.
- baybal2 7y ago> far away from the cold-hard reality The cold-hard reality is that states who have established a system of domestic surveillance have sent millions of their own citizens to crematoriums. Sane nations have destroyed your political faction back in sixties. Pro-communist, race chauvinists who look up to Mao for inspiration were thrown in the garbage bin of history, and thank god for that. Very fortunately, America of today is not Cambodia, nor Laos, and you all have to thank Rockefeller commission for grinding the legacy of Allen Dullest to dust
- blurps 7y agoYou are using the same tactic I described: State surveillance has the potential to turn us all into Nazi's, so state surveillance is inherently bad. How can I ever hope to support the good of state surveillance for national security when I have to defend the Stasi? I can't. You (God)win. It is intellectually dishonest to pose the effort of governments to combat illegal immigration as a targeting of people based on race. It is a sensitivity trap that shuts down our rational faculties. Yes... all religious extremists are also religious. Most immigrants have a different race. Yes, being an undocumented immigrant makes you vulnerable. But deserving of coddling, because they happen to also share a protected variable? No.