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I have a good friend, full time full stack dev for the last 2 years. PHP + JS, on a 2 man team/project/product. He is the epitome of the late bloomer programme

by pas 7y ago

I have a good friend, full time full stack dev for the last 2 years. PHP + JS, on a 2 man team/project/product. He is the epitome of the late bloomer programmer (bachelors in CS and masters in econ math), they started using composer 3 months ago. No package.json yet! No make file, no linting, no CI/CD, no deploy. Though they feel that it'd be great to bundle JS files. No templating engine either, though they are doing AJAX, so no <?= spaghetti. Probaly on their next project they might venture beyond PHP. Who knows. We can't force people to start with Rust. :|

zelphirkalt 7y ago
Ha, well, we all started somewhere. My first website also use PHP, although I never did the spaghetti, not even as beginner programmer, but then again I learned it differently in school and also did not make use of JavaScript on that website ... Ah but actually that's not true, my first website was HTML, CSS, JS on a file hoster and uploading in the correct sequence to update the links in the files. > We can't force people to start with Rust. :| Yep, we cannot and should not force. Perhaps Rust is also quite difficult for beginners to use, even if with that comes great learning. I consider it a fine language. I only wish it had proper tail call optimization. If it had that, I would probably start a project in it tomorrow. sigh. Good luck to your friend, hopefully they will dip their toes into something beyond PHP soon.